Yes, Paul.
You were not here in 1999.
A lot of the then active BBS posters often commented the Gem products as inferior!
I won't call names but a lot of them are still here!

By the way if you have read well, you will have noticed that I disagreed with that, and still do

About the Kurzweil;
I own one and it will take me another 10 years to understand everything of this board.

People claiming , wahhh sounds are weak after two days have no clue, and should not buy a K anyway.
They are better off with a roland XV series or another sample module with ready to go sounds.
To understand even the basic capabilities of a Kurzweil you need a lot more as 2 days.

It's like I hear someone saying , damn that guitar is not good, I still can't play it after two days practice.

And this post was 4 years old!
Thing's change a lot like cliff said.

Take care you all., I am off for holliday after thursday...(4 weeks )

Fred