Yeah, Tony... why the fixation with new? An E80 is not a cheap PSR. Built like a tank (weighs like one too! ), and generally cared for obsessively by their owners, you can find these for under half what a new one would have cost you when it was released (not when they were blowing out the old stock!).

The OS updates are free, so you are still getting the latest production version, no matter WHAT is in the machine when you buy it.

I just bought a backup used G70 that looked like it had come off the showroom floor. I couldn't be happier with it. Give up on new, and get something that LOOKS like new, sounds like new, plays like new, but half price.

Don's sounds perfect...!