oh come on guys play fair ! Why get upset ? We are just debating !

There is no point in putting up a demo so that the two types of sound generation can be compared (audio play back versus midi note generated sample play back )and then throwing up your hands and saying the difference between the sound quality is huge when according to the two demos the difference clearly isnt huge. If there was an audya near by then i would love to hear it in real life but there isnt so all i got is you friendly folk on synthzone :-).

I simply want to know the truth. Is the Audya playing chords in Tonewheeldudes demo with NO midi note substitution or not ?

Frankieve said on 22 February 2010

'So this is the way the chord with audio works

It will recognize the basic chords in audio, then to create the more advance chords it adds midi notes to complete

It sounds great, you can't tell the mix'

Tonewheeldude said on 7th April 2010 commented on the high quality of the midi guitar samples so much so that that he found it difficult to differentiate between the real audio guitars and when the midi sample driven guitars kicked in.

You cant have it both ways guys ! Either the difference between real Audio or midi driven samples is 'big' as some of you have put it or modest as i have put it . This is what Tonewheeldude said about complex chords:

'.....I am off sick and have a few minutes so I just tried the Audya I have here and played the following chord variations. I marked the ones with a * which I felt switched to midi guitars, but its pretty hard to tell on some as sometimes there are two guitars playing together and the midi guitars on the Audya are very high quality. In amongst a style the changes are not noticable particuarly as these odd chords tend to be played in passing. All the ones without the * definately played live guitars. I think I have covered about every chord variation, but if i missed any let me know.

I have a feeling if I gave this list to a guitarist he would laugh at me..but here goes:

'
Major
Minor
5
Dominant 7th
Major 7th
Minor 7th
Minor Major 7th
Sus 4 *
Sus 2
6
Minor 6
9
Minor 9
Major 9
Minor Major 9
11
Minor 11
Major 11
Minor Major 11
13
Minor 13
Major 13
Minor Major 13
add 9
Minor add9
6 add 9
minor 6 add 9
Dominant 7th add 11
Major 7th add 11
Minor 7th add 11 *
Minor Major 7th add 11
Dominant 7th add 13
Major 7th add 13
Minor 7th add 13
Minor major 7th add 13
7b5
7#5 *
7b9
7#5b9 *
m7b5 *
m7#5
m7b9
9#11
9b13
6sus4
7sus4 (* hard to tell on this)
Major 7th Sus 4 *
9sus4
Major 9 Sus4 '

My question is this :

Is Tonewheelsdudes version of the list of real audio chords correct ? if so Frankeieve was mistaken and the Audya can actually handle a lot more complex chords with real Audio than i first believed (which is good) or Tonewheeldude is incorrect and he himself could not not truly tell the difference between a midi note generated by a sample of the guitar compared to real Audio recordings of a live guitar.

You dealers cant have it both ways :-)

If Tonewheeldude himself who had an audya, live, in his home, struggled to tell the difference between real Audio sounds and Midi driven samples then i have to admire the cheek some of you have when you boast how much better the Audya sounds compared to everything else :-) .

But there is nothing wrong in loving your instrument dont get me wrong. If i paid over £5000 for my keyboard or if i were selling its at that price it had better sound outstanding too !! at least it better had in my ears :-)

(Tonewheeldude and Frankieve it was just a gentle pop at you both..dont get upset . I am just playing with you :-))

So..... Can anyone from Ketron, preferably AJ actually confirm the chords that are true Audio generated from the list Tonewheeldudes produced in his home ,live from those that had midi guitar samples in them ?

I would understand if no one responded because if Tonewheeldudes assessment was completely wrong.....it would simply prove that Midi driven samples can sound almost if not just as true as real audio and there goes the entire audya unique selling proposition.....which is where i started.

As Liontracs always says ....Enjoy whatever you play !




[This message has been edited by spalding1968 (edited 04-22-2010).]