I was in a "discussion group" a few weeks back. The usual happened. Half of the people in the group start talking and forget to stop. They don't hear YOU when you talk. They interrupt and start their own spiel again. I have to raise my voice every so often, take the speaker's role and remind them it's a "discussion group" and not a "monologue group."
Afterwards, I had a word with the moderator and told him he should be stronger in his moderation as I'm wearing myself out trying to talk over everyone. His answer: "People are undisciplined nowadays!"
I never looked at it that way...rude, arrogant, obnoxious, yes. UNDISCIPLINED...that says it all! Just those four words alone helps me to understand better what I'm up against both on and off stage!
Reading your comments above also helped a lot. It seems I'm not alone in dealing with these brain-dead people.
Lucky