Originally Posted By lahawk
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There are many advantages to the socialist agenda, except there is no country where it has ever really worked to help the average person. It usually gets twisted into communism or despotism/ dictatorship; the rich get it all and the poor get the dregs. And it all starts with people thinking "you should" instead of "what works and helps everyone". (Allan)


It depends on the "socialist agenda" If Universal Healthcare is included, then almost all civilized countries will disagree in that it does work for the average person, and is not a twisted plot to enter communism or dictatorship. In fact it's a world wide majority opinion that Healthcare is a human right.

It's rather unfair to give a general assumption that socialism leads to Communism. Therefore, maybe explain a little better what you mean by a social agenda not working. There are very few Communist Nations, and many "Socialist" Nations, happy that the government is providing Domestic Tranquility

Heck the USA can be considered a Socialist Nation. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Police, Fire Departments, Transportation, etc., all working for the better, as it "should".

Peace and Vote on, or before Tuesday


But who will pay for it if you remove the ability to strive to better yourself in a capitalist society? You will have no one to pay the taxes to pay for the "free health " etc for all the people. You and I will live in the same small single bedroom home with partner and kids plus parents ( since they can't look after themselves).

It sounds great but it's the application that has proven elusive, even by what I can see the Democratic states today.


Allan
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