This morning I received my first PSR9000pro keyboard from Yamaha.
After unpacking it out of the box I was immediately struck with how much I like the look of this keyboard over the PSR9000. Even though the weight is not much lighter, it is a much sleeker looking keyboard. It is much narrower in it's height and depth and in my opinion, very good looking.
My first glance at the back panel, I was very happy to find the XLR mic connector and the 4 individual outputs as well as the stereo output jacks. When I plugged in a Shure SM58 mic, I was impressed with how good the vocal processor sounds.
The keyboard, as I expected, is the EX5 78 note keyboard and feels really good. Everything on this keyboard is like the PSR9000 but I did notice the new piano samples sound great. I installed my 1.2 GB hard drive out of an older PSR8000 and it worked fine. I like this keyboard alot but I'm still looking foward to the next generation Yamaha keyboard, which will be out next year to have more sophisticated styles that sound even more realistic than the current styles.
Although this keyboard is a production model, Yamaha is not expected to begin shipping to dealers until after the NAMM show. Having friends at Yamaha helped me get an early introduction to this new and very attractive keyboard here in the USA.
George Kaye

So George - what's the scoop:
Is it a "PSR" model, or has the prefix been dropped? (silly curiosity)

George, my dealer friend here called Yamaha for me and they said they could ship immediately. I guess I'll sell the "old" 9000 and go for the Pro. In that order, of course.
DonM www.donmasonmusic.com

Dave,
It's a PSR model all the way, but in a triton looking case!
George

George, did you see that 550 yet?
DonM

george,
thanx for the 9000pro info. Are the keys piano weighted? or?

donny

Hi George

I hate to sound repetitive, but do the letters "PSR" appear anywhere on the keyboard? or is it a PSR just in spirit?

Clif

Dave, I went to Yamaha's web site. The brochure and owner's manual are both there. They refer to it as 9000 Pro. The logo on the back side (facing both of your fans) says 9000 Pro. The logo on the top left side, facing you, when you get one, says 9000 Pro. Nowhere is it referred to as PSR.
I like that!
Now we can even look like Pros.
DonM

This one, I will pass on. It's just a repackage of a keyboard that I hate playing. You guys go and have your fun......I tell ya, you'll miss the speakers!

That's my idea and all Uncle Dave. I can't
see what the fuss is all about,George Kay as much as TOLD us that it is just a better looking version of the 9000 with some added thrills. What's the matter with you guys, you
can read ,can't you??!!!
Very much looking forward to your appraisal of the PA-80, (any day now??).
furthermore I was told by Ketron/Solton people that the SD-1 won't be in the stores here in Europe (let alone in the States, no
offence guys....) before May at best. Translated from proper Italian,this might well mean after the summer break, in other words, September or October.......Oh ,hell,
there's a tea mug I got for Xmas (and me birhtday) that says:
"anything worth having is worth waiting for...."
It sounds to me that the PRO9000 was hardly worth the wait. Not that it surprises me.....

I'm not slamming the PSR stuff, I just don't think the architechture justifies the price. We all heve different playing styles and maybe some of you love the PSR, but I am more of a "layer freak" - I make a "bed" of sound for my vocals to "lay" on. I tried to play the 9000 when it first came out and found out that I couldn't layer the two most essential sounds for my taste: piano & strings. At least.....not the better sounding ones. I'm not going to re-hash my tired old argument about (lack of) polyphony, but I must say that I think Yamaha is making a big mistake if they think this will attract a more "professional" clientele just because they added the word PRO and an XLR mic input. We all know that the "pro" is in the player and NOT the piece. I hope all of you that make the switch are happy with it, but I feel compelled to warn you: It's still a PSR9000 - don't expect it to perform like a Triton or an XP80 with an on board arranger. It's the same ole, same ole. It's a fine arranger if you play it the way that it was marketed. I need a little more than it has to offer.
Please don't let this discourage your creative "flow" - let's keep the conversations and the music strong! This is how we learn......from each other.

The keys on the 9000Pro are not weighted. They are like all other synth actions except for the fact that they are of a higher quality and feel than many arranger keyboards. When I say that the keyboard is from the EX5, this means that this key bed is from a pro synth keyboard and not from the PSR line of key beds, it does feel better to play on. I am not a piano player, so it is hard for me to judge just how much better the keyboard feels, but to my piano playing customers, they like the feel of this keyboard the best of all the non weighted action keyboards.
George Kaye

George,
I have a few friends that are out there with you at the show. See if you run into Dom Troilo (from Medley Music in Bryn Mawr Pa), or Don & Linda Moyer (from Pro-Line Music in Fairless Hills Pa).
I wish I was with you! I love fooling with the new stuff. You may find Don & Linda at the Korg booth - he's interrested in the Pa80....same as me. Have fun!

I can't change wives any more--too expensive, and I have a good one. But I can change a keyboard that I love for one that has all the same features plus many more that I want, and is beautiful to boot.
Polyphony is not a problem with the style that I use, but if it were, the expansion slots do address that. I usually turn my keyboard speakers off when I play anyway--why carry them around. Only once in 25 years as a full-time musician (has it really been that long??) have I played a gig with only the keyboard speakers. If I play the kb at home (very rare) I have plenty of gear with which to hear it.
The way you play (Uncle Dave), you can use anything with good piano, strings, organ and drums and you sound fantastic. I need the arranger to be my backup band. I don't use many sequences, but I want my bass player, drummer and rhythm "guys" to compliment my right hand. Would you believe I don't even have a sustain pedal hooked up? I use one pedal for vocal harmony off/on and one to control DSP such as leslie effect. I was using the built-in polyphony counter on the 9000 the other day to see what you would have to do to run out of polyphony, and I had to switch pedal settings to sustain. Incidentally, to run out in full keyboard (no arranger) mode, you have to layer 3 sounds, play full chords with both hands, and hold the sustain pedal down and then play more chords. It was a little easier to run out in "pianist" arranger mode, but you still have to layer sounds with both hands and use the sustain pedal. It is the very least of my worries--I didn't run out of polyphony very often with 32-note keyboards.
That's why they make different keyboards I guess--because we use them in different ways.
I've had the 9000 for about 7 months and there isn't a day that goes by that I don't find another feature that I like. It sounds great right out of the box, but the editing capabilities are virtually endless. The DSP's are unequalled by any other arranger, as are the vocal harmony capabilities.
With all this technology, it would seem they could make it play sequence medleys though, doesn't it? Oh well nothing's perfect. If it were, we'd have nothing to discuss or look forward to.
DonM

I would be interested in hearing opinions from those that have had or heard both the PSR9000 and the 9000Pro regarding the improvements to the vocal harmony. Frank may have already formed an opinion, and I am sure DonM will have one soon. My impression is that the PSR9000 had the best harmonizer and that the 9000Pro harmonizer will be even better.

After reading all your messages it seems the
best thing to do is playing my VA7.
I like the great styles with acc.tracks of
60 measures or 24,16 or 8 ( all in one style)
with the name Rosenberg. A friend of mine
bought from John Smies. With the exellent
guitars, basses and drums it is very good
for Sweet Georgia Brown etc. I am not a sing-
er so I do not miss a vocalist. For me the
VA7 and the X1 are the top at this moment,
Yamaha,Technics,Gem and Korg are following
closely.We shall see what they show us in Ana
heim and later in Frankfurt(Germany).Great
expectations from VA9,SD1 and may be more.

Thanks for the information, Frank.

Do you have URLs or info on Music Companion and Hi-Play? How do these compare?

Hi Don,
Have you seen this site? http://www.giles.com/yamaha1/pressreleases/NAMM/WNAMM01/PAC/index.htm

It has some information & pictures of the 350 & 550.
cheers,
Nobby


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Thanks, Frank, I had heard of these alternatives to JammerLive, but until now have not been able to find them.

Frank,
I'm sure it was MY fault for not reading the requirements, but I tried to download the "Hi Play" software demo, and my whole pc is screwed up. I don't think it's a virus - it downloaded ok, but as I installed it, it froze up and the video is all messed up, I have NO more mouse control and I had to come to the library to read my emails!!!!!AGHHH.!
Beware - all who may want to try this software - read EVERYTHING FIRST !!!!!!
(This one's gonna cost me - I need a tech)

Frank,
There is an update for Windows ME that might help.
Dave, sounds like your Systems Resources are overworked. You might check in that little tray on the bottom right (probably) of your screen and see what all is running. Also a lot of programs don't fully close all files when you exit them and if your computer has been on for a long time, and you have opened and closed a lot of stuff, these resources can be so tied up that nothing works.
Right-click My Computer, then Properties, then Performance. Under System Resources it will show the percentage that is free. If it gets below 30% or so, you need to close some programs, or reboot, or close some of the stuff running in the background. Control-alt-delete will show you everything that is running.
Maybe this will help.
DonM

There are Windows applications, such as the notorious Excel spreahsheet program from Microsoft, that do not release / recycle the physical memory back to system memory pool even after they have been terminated. We call this memory leak. To handle memory leak problems, there is a very effective small freeware program available for Windows 95/98/NT (I do not know if it supports Windows 2000 and ME yet) called Ram Page. After installing the program and activating it to run on your Windows status bar, double-clicking the numeric Ram Page symbol will free up a certain configurable chunk of memory (excessive use of Ram Page is not recommended though) for your system to work more effectively with memory. You can download Ram Page utility freely from the following site:
http://www.jfitz.com/software/RAMpage/index.htm

I have used this program for quite a long time and have found it very useful. I am sure Uncle Dave will probably want to have this utility installed on his older laptop once he has its problems corrected.

Paul Ip
from Texas