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#103710 - 10/01/04 09:52 PM Jewish Gig Advice?
GlennT Offline
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Loc: Medina, OH, USA
I was asked to perform at a brand new retirement facility that happens to be all Jewish, with a resident age range of 55-94. When I mentioned to a friend (who is German) that I was contemplating what additional songs I should put into that performance, she said that I probably should not play any polkas. I asked why? She said because polkas are German and many Jewish people don't like Germans (or German music).

Had I not brought up the subject, I probably would plan on going in with my first time set performance, which, of course, has a few polkas. If anyone thinks this sounds silly, I couldn't agree more, but I have to admit, it's got me thinking.

Anybody have any experience, input, or suggestions on this?

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#103711 - 10/01/04 11:51 PM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
Uncle Dave Offline
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I've heard that many time before too, and since I am not Jewish - I'm taking it at face value. I can't play Wagner at Weddings either.
Do Hava Nagila with a polka beat - compromise !
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#103712 - 10/02/04 05:33 AM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
bruno123 Offline
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Glenn, there are many Jewish songs that have a polka feel, why not play them instead of the polka's. Playing what you want to play is not always a great idea. Part of being successful is flavoring your music to fit the crowd. When you play a German affair, no need to play Hora's.

Hope this helps, John C.

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#103713 - 10/02/04 07:28 AM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Glann,

Play anything from Fiddler On The Roof and you can't go wrong. However, keep in mind that your normal routine will work out just fine--anything from the 40s, 50s and 60s will keep the dancefloor packed as long as the tempo is slow to moderate.

Good Luck,

Gary
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#103714 - 10/02/04 07:37 AM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
Glenn-

Deja Vu, my friend...

I've been down this exact road with a handful of Jewish accounts I have...Here's how I've handled it...

Retirement Community programs are usually 45-60 minutes in length. not that long to program without any German Music...I do NOT play any Polkas whatsoever...My song list is big enough, (as yours probably is, too) to easily avoid the style entirely...

I do pull a few extra Gershwin tunes out for these type gigs...they ALWAYS go over great as very few of my peers in the Dayton area have any idea who he was or how in the world to play his stuff. The audience seems to feel the brothers Gershwin are the creme de le creme of songwriters...

If you're looking for that kind of festive, party type feel...do a good hoedown type country piece...



I will also say that often the "vibe" I feel in my Jewish accounts seems unique. Not better, certainly not worse...just consistently different from any other places I perform. I may be way off base, but my gut tells me this type of client and their audience holds much of the classic American Songbook content in higher regard than many of my other accounts.

I could theorize perhaps, that in the typical Jewish home that my audience grew up in, an environment existed that held the work of Gershwin, Porter, Kern and yes, even Berlin in a different light-almost a reverent one-For many, maybe these composers' "hits of the day" were the first exposure first-hand to Amercian Songwriters...with many immagrants...perhaps their work struck a special chord or resonated with them above others...

I could only wish that ALL my accounts had the knowledge of American Popular Song that my Jewish clients posess...


Good luck-

Bill in Dayton
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#103715 - 10/02/04 08:28 AM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
Dnj Offline
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Glen, You got mail...

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#103716 - 10/02/04 09:10 AM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Hi Glenn, here's the fakebook (212 songs) I highly recommend for any Jewish gig:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0933676697/ref%3Dnosim/theharrynilsso/102-0330572-2742535

This topic is also covered on the following thread:
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/008838.html[/URL]

I agree with Bill in Dayton that songs from the classic American Songbook (Cole Porter, Gershwin, Rogers & Hart, Kern) seem to be especially appreciated by the older Jewish audience, but then again, these are my favs too. Scott
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#103717 - 10/02/04 09:24 AM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
Uncle Dave Offline
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Well said, Bill !
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#103718 - 10/02/04 01:03 PM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
GlennT Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
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Loc: Medina, OH, USA
Thanks, guys!

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#103719 - 10/02/04 05:57 PM Re: Jewish Gig Advice?
chony Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 1247
Loc: New York
Hi Glen,

Sorry I couldn't answer sooner - Thursday to Saturday is a Jewish holiday and I don't use my computer during that time.

A significant (or maybe THE significant) portion of traditional Jewish music is Polka style. I would not recommend at all to play German songs or polkas at a Jewish old age home. Some of these people may have been in German concentration camps and watched their loved ones march to their death to these tunes. Wagner is out of the question -- he was a great supporter of Hitler and wrote many of the third reich anthems and theme songs.

But many of the Jewish songs you'll find in the fake book will work very well with polka styles. In fact tomorrow night I'm doing a Jewish performance and will lean heavily on polka.

Chony

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