It is the same counter product as the G1000/EM2000...Clif is right on the pricing...My guess $3,000 street..

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The PA1X and the E-80 look like kissing cousins..
http://www.roland.com/products/en/E-80/specs.html
http://korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=PA1X&category_id=1

[This message has been edited by Fran Carango (edited 03-29-2006).]

Look familiar

Looking at the specs, the E80 looks like they took the G70 and packaged it in a 61 key with speaker version. I do see there are 2 expansion slots compared to the G70's one slot and that there are about 90 more factory styles. Almost every other feature looks just like the G70.
The six fill ins are not on dedicated buttons on the G70 so I would think the E80 would be set up the same way. There is an Auto Fill buttons which when lit does a fill when you push variation buttons within the style. You have 4 fill ins when you press from one variation to another. Also, when you go from 1 - 2 and then back from 2 -1, you get a different fill. 3-4 and back also gives you two different fills, so this is how you end up with 6 on the Roland keyboards.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

it does look very similar to the PA1X. If it sounds like it then Roland G70 sales will drop dramatically and finally Roland will have a worthy contender in the arranger market. If it has similar sounds as the G70 unfortunately it will flop. You might think that i have a downer on the G70. I dont, i really want to like the instrumenmt but the sound is..... Even when it is played so well by the guy from the Danish G70 club ( and he plays very well by the way ) it still does not compete in tonality even to the PSR3000 which is half the price.
Great to see that inbuilt speakers are coming back in vogue.

Hi Spalding

A lot of keyboardplayers like the G-70 sound and don´t like the Yamaha sound. I got a Tyros myself in November 2005, but didn´t like the sound, and sold it 5 weeks later.
The E-80 has new sampled sounds. The drums are improved and the guitar sounds are multisampled. The effect part is improved. You can ajust e.g. EQ on every single drum sound and style/song parts. And there is 3 MFX for the style/song etc.

Regards
Niels

[This message has been edited by nielshs (edited 03-29-2006).]

It is amazing, everyone I know with a trusted opinion has picked the G70 as the best or second best arranger of the current market..The only dissenting opinion that has merit is Craig[but I believe he had an early model that has been rectified]..
Most of the other dissenting people, haven't a clue what they are talking about...They have not owned a G70[or any Roland top of the line board]...and are fixed on their Yamaha[inferior boards, I am not talking Tyros specifically, but the other PSR's]..

I trust opinions from George, AJ, Frankieve, James and others that have spent time with the G70..Also the vast majority of AJ's sessions picked the G70 in most categories..

I mentioned to DNJ last week that Roland was coming out with a line to compete with the PSR's[and Tyros]....I will take a quote from Don Mason "I told you so"..
Think about it ...real keys!!

Roland chose to add the guitar mode on the lower line, as well 16mbs flash memory..

If you are looking for a new board...better take a long look at the Roland line, and not settle for another re packaged keyboard from the other guys..

Also Roland is including the Lyrics and chord reads now...finally[they should have always been available]..without an external device..

George, when you get prices, please post for us..My guess $1,200 for the E50, and $1,400 for the E60[street]..If they are MI dealer pieces..

Hi Fran

You are so right.

Best Regards
Niels

Originally Posted by Fran


76 keys for $1400 definitely worth a look at, especially with "76" keys Yeah!

[This message has been edited by Stephenm52 (edited 03-29-2006).]

Why no weight on spec sheet for the E50?

cant wait to try one .......could be a good backup KB we'll see.....

BTW Fran I agree totaly.....

Fran if you are meaning me (Craig) I've never purchased a G70 and wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. My neighbour had one and didn't get on with it at all.
For me Roland has not delivered the goods with an arranger other than the old G1000 so lets hope this new one takes a step back to the likes of the G1000 but improves on it with modern sounds, styles and features
Hang on I see it's only 61 notes though

[This message has been edited by Craig_UK (edited 03-29-2006).]