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#105316 - 07/12/07 05:21 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
mikeathome1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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If you go to Yamaha's website http://tiny.pl/fzxn under products all the arrangers are listed under digital pianos and home keyboards. Not under Professional Synthesizers, Workstations & Tone Modules. I love the yammie stuff I'm just saying this is how they classify them.
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#105317 - 07/12/07 08:20 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I think I'm the first dealer in the USA to receive my shippment.
I don't think there is little excitement.
From the European members I read only possitive remarks because they've had a chance to play the new 900.
My just arrived today, and I'm blown away with the qualilty of sounds and styles for such a reasonable price. I also think the addition of a hard disk audio recorder is great at this price point.
I think I will sell loads of these new models. I can see anyone with a 3000 loving the upgraded sounds and styles and wanting to upgrade to this board. It has done to the Tyros2 customers what the PSR3000 did to the sales of Tyros1 keyboards.


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#105318 - 07/12/07 08:32 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
zuki Offline
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George,

I trust your opinion and now you have me longing it
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#105319 - 07/12/07 08:35 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
I am starting to sound like Diki...somebody please,,,,tell me to shut up...Then go to Diki's post and tell him to shut up too..


Not much chance of either of us taking any notice, though (but you're welcome to try)
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#105320 - 07/12/07 08:37 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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Originally posted by zuki:
Uh Oh - The Yammy bashers are out! To say Yamaha arrangers are not for the pro market, is truly an eroneous statement

Donny, once upon a time, you were in love with the 3K for live use?

zuki


Zuki....The 3k did an admiral job....but I said "WORKROUNDS" in my post....
I made it work for me, although I couldn't add the extra keys I needed to it
that doesn't make it Pro ready.

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#105321 - 07/12/07 09:31 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
I simply don't get it...

If Yamaha think that 'pros' need a choice of 61, 76 and 88 keys for their Motif line, why do arranger users only need 61 for their 'pro' Tyros2...?

It can't be cost... can it? They HAVE painted themselves into a corner by making the T2 61 so expensive that the hike the larger keyboards MIGHT entail would push a 76 or even an 88 (wouldn't you just KILL for a T2 with an S90ES form factor? ) into Oasys country. But the truth is, there is very little basic cost difference between a 61 and a 76 note keyboard and case (in fact, there is less than $200 difference between a Korg TR-61 and a TR-76 at retail level and no more than about $500 for TOTL workstations, which the T2 keybed and case don't honestly compare to).

So what would it actually cost Yamaha to find out if everybody that clamors for a 76 T2 is just blowing smoke? Not a whole lot, compared to what they could gain, IMO...
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#105322 - 07/12/07 09:37 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Nick G Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 1115
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
just to add to that,

RRP for Motif XS in australia: ($AUD)

XS6 - $4500.00
XS7 - $5500.00
XS8 - $6500.00

thats a thousand dollar different between each model!
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#105323 - 07/12/07 09:53 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
What's the exchange rate?

About $500USD street price difference between XS 61 and 76 in the US (and they are VERY new and hot - it usually drops after the initial rush is over)

$500US between FantomX 61 and 76
$400US between Korg M3 61 and 76...

Pretty consistent...

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 07-12-2007).]
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#105324 - 07/12/07 10:00 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
adimatis Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 1162
Loc: Oradea, RO
the difference in price is rather a marketing decission than a cost problem.
i think yamaha wanted their arranger to be known as only 61 keys. is again the marketing. this way, anyone who does not necessarily wants 76 or more keys, will think automatically of tyros, and skip the other options.
and there are advantages having a lighter and smaller keyboard.
so, yamaha is just happy with this, and probably none of the tyros series (if continued) or psr series will ever have 76 keys again.
probably when that will happen, there will be a new series released, as a "brand new and exciting keyboard". and that will be probably after T3.
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#105325 - 07/12/07 10:03 PM Re: Little excitement on the S900? why?
Nick G Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 1115
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
at the moment the Australian Dollar is very strong.

1USD = 1.22 AUUD.
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