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#109176 - 09/22/04 10:54 AM Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
lukitoh Offline
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I spotted the item at Fry's electronics and they will do price match. It has to be a retail store and it's ok if it also has online store. I just print out the price and Fry's will price match.

What's the best price you guys found ? And which store ? Thanks

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#109177 - 09/22/04 11:12 AM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
travlin'easy Offline
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Comp USA has them for $149.

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#109178 - 09/22/04 11:13 AM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
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#109179 - 09/22/04 11:13 AM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
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To my knowledge, Amazon is not what he's looking for as it is online only.
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#109180 - 09/22/04 11:33 AM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
lukitoh Offline
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Amazon won't cut it as it is online store only. Fry's price is $149 or thereabout.

I saw guys here found them online for like $60 after rebate which is fantastic.

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#109181 - 09/22/04 11:42 AM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
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Han, one advantage of purchasing online over Fry's is they often (if located out of state) don't charge sales tax. A number of online retailers also don't charge shipping for purchases over $99. If I need it RIGHT NOW, I'll drive over to Frys, but if I can wait, I usually find online stores cheaper, that is other than those Frys currently featured discounted items which are truly UNBEATABLE! I have to admit I LOVE searching for bargains at Frys. - Scott
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#109182 - 09/23/04 07:52 AM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
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I paid $57 total after rebate from Amazon.com - no tax or shipping. I think the price went up to $59 a few days later.

I've heard many comments now on other forums that these speakers and other similar computer speakers require a 10 hour "break-in" period before they sound like they should. I haven't had time to break my Z-2200's in yet if that's the case, and if such a thing really makes a difference. Does anyone else think their Z-2200's sound better after they've been used a while? I still think these things have muddy and nearly ucontrollable amounts of bass.
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#109183 - 09/23/04 12:36 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
lukitoh Offline
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I finally ordered from Amazon.com and after rebate is about $52.00

Amazing !!

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#109184 - 09/23/04 12:57 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
dazart Offline
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Registered: 09/28/03
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Loc: England
Hi,
My father has just bought these speakers for his Kn7000 for home use.I told him after reading about the reviews here on synthzone that they would sound good.

Today he has phoned me to tell me he will be taking them back to the shop in the morning.
For the same reason the Pro has commented on.The Bass is far to overwhelming and there is no way of reducing the bass to a satisfactory level.

Regards
Daz

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#109185 - 09/23/04 01:19 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
DonM Offline
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There IS a lot of bass response on the Logitechs, but I've had no problems at all adjusting them. Many people may have the internal e.q. on their keyboard or mixer set to boost the low end. It's not necessary with the Logitechs. I've had nothing but great comments about the sound when I use them.
DonM
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#109186 - 09/23/04 01:28 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
Scottyee Offline
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I don't know if I mentioned this before, but I too had purchased (quite a while back) the Logitechs, and also RETURNED them for the SAME reasons that Jim (Pro) and Daz's father did.

It's been my experience with speaker systems which rely on only 2 tiny satellites speakers + floor subwoofer, that the mid range frequencies are always lacking, resulting in the bass & hi frequencies sounding over emphasized. I notice this (but to a lesser extent) with my Yamaha brand Tyros MS01 satellite + subwoofer system as well. I find that satellite+subwoofer type systems aren't able to project the all important mid range frequencies (voice, etc) into the audience very well either, perhaps because a larger speaker than the ones included in the satellites are needed to reproduce this. On the other hand, the subwoofer only reproduces just the lowest frequencies

This is the reason that, even for the smallest rooms, I always take the Motion Sound KP100S.

Scott
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#109187 - 09/23/04 01:33 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
The Pro Offline
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:

This is the reason that, even for the smallest rooms, I always take the Motion Sound KP100S.

Scott


Ditto and amen...
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#109188 - 09/23/04 02:12 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
Dnj Offline
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That Motion amp couldn't cut the mustard for me AT ALL when I tried it out...might be different with the OPTIONAL speaker purchase installed......
The Z2200 does what its supposed to do,
"VERY SMALL Rooms"...
Funny how people think differently.....
to each his own I guess

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-23-2004).]

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#109189 - 09/23/04 03:21 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
When I tried the Motion Sound KP-100 and 200, I was not at all impressed. While it reproduced acceptable mid range sounds, it lacked in bottom end. After adjusting the EQ's the top end sounded tinny.

As for adjusting the bottom end of the Z-2200s, I was able to do this with the keyboard's EQ, and lowering the bass volume control to the 10:00 O'clock setting.

As I've often stated, my spouse of more than 40 years has absolutely no qualms about telling me if something does not sound good. The first time she heard the Z-2200s she unequivocally said "Wow! They sound incredible." That was before I tuned and tweeked the keyboard.

As DNJ said, these things were not meant for big rooms, and anyone that purchases them thinking that they will provide the same sound quality as a 15-inch Barbetta, Peavey or other high quality system is fooling themselves.

Here are a few things, however, that I have noticed:

1. The keyboard's EQ must be set accordingly for the size of the room you intend to play.

2. In small to mid-size rooms of less than 1,000 square feet, the bass volume level should set at less than half if the main volume is at 12:00 O'clock or higher to maintain the correct ratio of bass to mid and high range sounds.

3. Placement of the satellite speakers is critical--just as placement of the speakers of any sound system. They must be at least 4 to 6 feet off the floor in order for the sound to be projected proportionally around the room. Heights less than 4 feet usually result in poor projection, especially if that room is crowded with people.

4. Using the Z-2200 in conjunction with a larger system, IMO, just does not make good sense. It will not make a substandard system sound better, and there could be some sound conflicts between the system if they were not properly balanced.

The few groups of folks I performed in front of while using this system have providing nothing but positive feedback.

Gary
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#109190 - 09/23/04 04:11 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Gary,
I didn't like the Motion Sound either. Guess that's why they make more than one option!
DonM
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#109191 - 09/23/04 10:19 PM Re: Logitech Z2200 - need best price from retail store (not just online store)
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Isn't the motion amp 5x the price of the logitech?

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