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#109861 - 07/15/03 06:02 AM Re: a clever tip
nardoni2002 Offline
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Registered: 08/12/02
Posts: 673
Loc: malaga, spain
hi guys, thanks for your input,i think i missed the point,what i was saying was that there are thousands of people out there who as hobbiests who only play for pleasure ,who would love to play lots of songs at home without having to learn everything,i,m learning the keys ,this tip was given to me by an old gent ,and so i thought i would pass it on ,i still think it,s a great tip,mike

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#109862 - 07/15/03 06:32 AM Re: a clever tip
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Mike,

The old guy was right. If it ain't fun--don't do it. That applies not only to music, but everything you do in life. I've been very fortunate to live as long as I have, and I hope to live a lot longer, but after coming real close to loosing my life many years ago, I quickly discovered that life is pretty darned short. Live life to the fullest, enjoy every minute and every aspect, and with luck, you'll make it fun for a lot of other people. If you can make a lot of people get off their butts and dance the night away while playing in the chord of "C", transposed or not, then you're having fun and so are they--that's what it's all about.

Cheers,

Gary
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#109863 - 07/15/03 06:41 AM Re: a clever tip
Idatrod Offline
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Registered: 07/23/02
Posts: 562
Loc: Oceanside, CA USA
nardoni2002 "mike", I see you got that computer glitch straightened out since you're able to post to the thread (if you can post, you can "read" the other posts). What was the problem? Sometimes just a simple reboot will clear up many oddities. Glad to see you got it fixed okay.

Best regards,
Mike

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#109864 - 07/15/03 11:44 AM Re: a clever tip
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
Since I started learning on an organ, I was taught specific inversions (not all inversions), that were easily reached with little hand movement. Nowadays, they called them "Pad" sounds. So:
Gmaj wud b played in root postion.
Cmaj wud b played in 2nd inversion.
Amin wud b played in root postion.
Fmaj wud b played in 1st inversion. etc.
This method accommadates playing on an arranger very well (multi mode). I can play most chords without looking at my left hand.
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#109865 - 07/18/03 04:26 AM Re: a clever tip
MacAllcock Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 1221
Loc: Preston, Lancashire, England
Strange old thing, keys. Personally I have no problem playing any tune I know in any key whatsoever, so long as I start at the beginning.

Also I used to work with a singer/guitarist who is a pretty good singer and an OK guitarist (don't ask about both at the same time) but you could bet that if he didnt know a song you'd end up playing it in B, C# or F#!!!
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#109866 - 07/18/03 04:30 AM Re: a clever tip
MacAllcock Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 1221
Loc: Preston, Lancashire, England
And of course to return the the original topic, having met so many "nearly" keyboard players who couldn't cope with different keys and thus gave up; I dont see why you shouldn't use transpose to get you up and running.

Once you are confident in the "simpler" keys (I never thought about it before but Scottyee's right about C# being a nice shape for the hands) then you may get brave and try more complex stuff. Let us not forget that if you are playing a tune such as (say) "I Cant Smile Without You" then the key changes within the song are going to carry you away from C no matter what you do with the transpose settings to start off with!
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