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#110078 - 05/28/03 07:25 AM Re: About PSR-2100
David P Offline
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Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 4
Loc: Göteborg, Sweden
tracknet:
I plugged my headphones in both keyboards to try to compare the two (E-56 and PSR-2100). It's hard to compare, but my personal taste is that the Yamaha has a better piano voice. With other instruments the difference is bigger. I personally play a lot of organ sounds and here the difference i huge. I havn't converted any styles from the Roland keyboard and I probably won't since it has no disk drive. I'm not even sure it can be done (maybe to play the styles and record them on the computer and then edit them in some way).

Scott:
The USB-connection does not allow you to play styles that resides on the computer harddrive directly from the keyboard. The File Utility program that run on the computer is only for transfering styles, songs etc. to and from the USER-areas on the keyboard. Also there is no way to connect an internal or external harddrive that I'm aware of (no mentioning of this in the manual).

Regards,
/David

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#110079 - 05/28/03 08:09 AM Re: About PSR-2100
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Registered: 01/31/01
Posts: 3602
Loc: Maryland
I was told by my Yamaha rep that PSR2100's will be shipping very soon , like next week .

Dano
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#110080 - 05/28/03 09:11 AM Re: About PSR-2100
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
Charley,
What you are asking for is illegal.
Starkeeper
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#110081 - 05/28/03 07:11 PM Re: About PSR-2100
rattley Offline
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Registered: 11/14/99
Posts: 836
Loc: Punta Gorda Florida USA
Illegal? I'm not trying to sell anything............just editing a midi file.

What about all of the Tyros styles that were converted to 2K............or PSR740, or whatever. Are all these files I have downloaded freely illegal?

Even if I have to go into a music store or borrow a PSR2100, I'm gonna load a few floppys and do with them what I please. I believe most PSR2000 owners would love to have some more new styles to play. What difference does it make where they came from.............Tyros, PSR9000, PSR8000, or even another make.......................I've converted hundreds of style files to play on my 2K and share them freely with anyone who wants them. Why do they put style editors on these new machines anyway?

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#110082 - 05/29/03 10:10 AM Re: About PSR-2100
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
Charley,
You want proprietary Yamaha created Style files (not MIDI files). You can edit your own style files and share them, or downloaded created styles, but you can't exchange Yamaha Created Style files, as they are proprietary (this is according to Yamaha). You should not exchange PSR9000, PSR8000, Tyros, etc. Yamaha created style files. I would imagine that Yamaha's thinking is that you might upgrade to a PSR2100 to get the new styles. If you can download them for free, that incentive anyways, is taken away. I have problems with this marketing technique, as well. Why buy a whole new board; with new speakers, new amplifier, new keybed, new o/s, just to get new styles. The PSR2100 has new styles, more storage, and USB. This should be an upgrade to the PSR2000 not a whole new keyboard.
Starkeeper
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#110083 - 05/29/03 11:55 AM Re: About PSR-2100
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
If Yamaha marketing offered an upgrade to PSR2000 owners, it would keep the Ekco keyboard manufacture out of the arranger market
Starkeeper
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I play Roland EM20 and Yamaha PSR550

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#110084 - 05/29/03 03:47 PM Re: About PSR-2100
rattley Offline
Member

Registered: 11/14/99
Posts: 836
Loc: Punta Gorda Florida USA
Well...........I'm not going to name names, but there are a few style websites that offer nothing BUT those proprietary styles you mention. Hundreds of members are doing things illegally every day.........poo poo!

Some kind soul sent me some new styles yesterday evening. They loaded perfectly into the 2000 needing no conversion or volume balance adjustments. Of course the 2000 automatically substitutes an appropriate XG voice when the original style uses a exclusive panel voice. Many of the styles just use XG voices.......and the OTS settings work great too! Very nice files!


[This message has been edited by rattley (edited 05-29-2003).]

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#110085 - 06/02/03 11:18 AM Re: About PSR-2100
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
Dear David,

Did the keyboard come with a style disk?

Beakybird

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#110086 - 06/02/03 11:44 AM Re: About PSR-2100
tracknet Offline
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Registered: 09/28/02
Posts: 73
Dear David, I have three little questions for you, the first 2100 owner in the forum

I would like to know if the quality of the PSR2100 voices is similar than identical PSR2000 voices (in that case, PSR2100 has more Mb only because it has a few new voices) or they are better (in that case, the more Mb are for all the voices, identical and new ones).

Does "grand piano" voice remain in PSR2100 in addition to the new "live grand piano"?. If so, do you really think "live grand piano" is better?

About styles, after a long time playing roland styles, do you think yamaha styles are better (richer, varied, deeper...) than your old Roland ones?




[This message has been edited by tracknet (edited 06-02-2003).]

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