Got my PAS in today, and quickly hooked it up, uploaded preset2.0 and played some satallite radio through it,

Got to say coverage was great, had ok bass, but I noticed it seemed a little lacking, especially in the upper bass or low mid section.

Any suggestions

Congrats on the PAS.....
Im using EQ 05 on both channels L/R.....
it make a fuller sound for sure. Then you really got to EQ your entire setup....remember this is a different animal then the conventional systems...in your house is not a good test either the PAS needs some space to breath. I have no problms with the Low end sound at all...
what does yoru entire gear consist of at this time?

Frankie,

First and foremost, you must set up the system as outlined in the instruction manual. This is a very important first step in order to acheive the highest qualithy sound. The following will help you immensely:

There are three gain settings for the primary channels (1 and 2) and two gain settings for the secondary channels (3 and 4).

To set the gain for the primary channels (1 or 2):

1) Adjust the input gain. Set the trim for the individual channel at the back panel of the PS1 Power Stand. Supply a maximum source signal and watch the LED, when you start to see it flash red, back off slowly on the trim potentiometer until it flashes green again.

2) Adjust the channel gain. The channel gain is controlled via the R1 Remote Control. With the master at zero, set the respective channel gain at 12 o'clock or 6 on the R1 Remote Control. At this point, the LED on the remote will be at the same intensity as the LED on the back panel of the PS1 Power Stand. This is considered optimum gain. The musician can then add a bit more from the R1 Remote Control if he/she requires.

3) Lastly, the R1 Remote Control MASTER knob is the last stage of gain. This knob gives you control over all 4 channels of the PS1 Power Stand.

To set the gain for the secondary channels (3 or 4):

1) Adjust the input gain of the individual channel. These channels do not have indicator LEDs but are optimized for 0dB line level signals, such as from an effects device, mixer or CD player.

2) As above, the R1 Remote Control MASTER knob is the last stage of gain. This knob gives you control over all 4 channels of the PS1 Power Stand.

Next, if you are using a stereo system, it is important to route both sides of the stero output the separate channels and use the proper presets. This provides you with a much fuller sound, better bass, quality mids and crisp highs.

Forget the satellite radio--it's not what you'll be performing with using a $2,000 sound system. Hook up your keyboard, set the keyboard's EQs as per some of the earlier posts, fire up that mic and do some serious stuff.

Finally, set up in a location larger than a room in your home or a garage. Then have someone else listen to what is coming from the system and provide you with an objective review of what they do and do not hear.

After making the proper adjustments and setting up your system accordingly, you should hear an incredible improvement over conventional sound systems. If not, take it back for a full refund.

Hope this is of some help,

Gary

Thanks for the advice,

I set the gains up they way the manual suggested, and it was an amazing amount of coverage, ( I tested it at work, it was a 2 bay 4 car enclosed garage,)

DNJ you mentioned EQ curve 05, is that for your keyboard?

I'm using it later today with 6 inputs via a mixer, probably go directly into 1 with my G70, then the mixer for everything else and feed that to Ch 3.

Frank......I dont use mixer for most gigs, too much to carry and hookup, I need to pack up and run to he next gig many times, I dont use the PAS for 1hr shows, I sing thru the KB and have everything EQ'd.....then have KB L/R outputs into channels 1&2 on the PAS using 05 EQ...PAS gains both at 9 on the remote, Master is at 11oclock, Gains 12 oclock, B,M,T 12 oclock, & make changes for individual songs if needed, this works for me. I control everything else from the KB master vol. MP3s are EQ'd thru the laptop player also.

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Frankie,

Isn't the G-70 output stereo? If this is the case, run the G-70 through channel's 1 and 2, set the presets to 55 or 57, make sure both channel's volume levels are set equally and you'll be amazed at how rich and full the sounds will be coming from that G-70.

Channels 3 and 4 of the PAS are not EQ'd with the PAS presets, therefore, anything you run through them will have to be EQ'd on the mixer itself.

Good Luck,

Gary

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I just did an A/B comparison of the summed mono to channel one and my mic into channel two of the Bose,with both outs to channels one and two and,the mic through my Kn7000.

In my scenario, when I hooked up my second lineout to the Bose, the sound was a little louder,but not better and easily adjusted on my remote, and my vocal sound quality suffered by not using my intended preset.

My conclusion is that every case must be evaluated separately.If you have good mic alghorythms in your KB to compensate for not using the Bose preset,fine, assuming the sound is that much better using L/R outputs.

In my case,the mic output is less than stellar(as you know),and no advantage is there to be had.

Well the job was outside under a tent, I beleive we night have hit 100 degrees.

I used a 8 channel Alesis, mono left G70 into channel 1 with my vocals through the G70

Channel 2,3,4 had other vocal mics.

ch 5 had a guitar.

input 3 of the Bose had the mini disk player for the other performer,.

Was getting a little feedback at first but took care of it by adjusting the placement.

This thing sounds great. Great bass, bery clear vocals.

Not my shitty Alesis decided to crap out on me half way through the gig, sounded like pop corn popping.

But I think it's a keeper.

Thanks again guys

any suggestions on a small non powered mixer with fxs?

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Frankie,

To my knowledge there is no such thing as a NON-POWERED mixer that has effects. You can buy a very inexpensive resistance mixer, but without a powered mixer there is no way to power the effects processor.

I'm currently using the Alesis 6FX when I have a couple guitar players and singers with me and it does a great job. Sells for about $100 and has 100 effects built in.

Good Luck

Gary

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I have two unpowered mixers with effects, both Behringer. Of course they have to plug into electricity, but they do not have power amps built in. I think there is a terminology misunderstanding here.
Gary, your Alesis is also an unpowered mixer.
DonM

It's the tech term watered down, it aint got no power amps in it mixer

With the exception of resistance mixers, all mixers with built-in effects are powered. However, the output is measured in milli-watts (mW). And, if I recall correctly, the output sound levels these types of mixers are measured in Decibel Units (dBu). While there's insufficient wattage to power speakers, they're still powered. Additionally, they require a voltage source for the processor and pre-amplification circuitry.

In the case of resistance mixers, they are merely a series of parallel inputs that connect to a single output. The only thing they can do is to lower the signals fired through the inputs, which in the case of mics and guitar pickups, is very small. The DOD-240 Resistance mixer is a classic example of this. And, it is listed as an unpowered mixer.

The product you seem to be referring to is a mixer/amp, which is a combination of a powered mixer and amplifier. With those, you can bypass the amplifier section by merely outputting from the line-out.

Just a difference in interpretation of terminology. I gotta' start drinkin' more Kickapoo Joy Juice!

Gary

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In general terms
any mixer that uses electricity doesnt mean they are powered -they are still non powered mixers (unless they have power amps built in to drive passive speakers ).


these are powered mixers
http://www.carvin.com/products/group.php?CID=MXP


this is not(though it uses electricity) http://www.carvin.com/products/single.php?ItemNumber=sm162
http://www.carvin.com/mixers/

That's interesting, but for some reason I cannot seem to find anything in the product description of the NON POWERED mixers you selected that says NON-POWERED. In fact, there is a section that descibes in great detail the Phontom Power used for the XLR inputs, and the versitility of the POWER SUPPLIES.

When I looked at the Power Mixer links, they refer to some at Amp-Mixers and PA (Public Address) amplifier systems.

I must be missing something here.

Cheers,

Gary

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