....gotta agree with that.

chas

Like Donny, I agree...IMO we're masters of fakery.

I also laugh all the way to the bank, as I am lucky enough to make the technology work for me.

If we are fooling people, it is no worse than the original purpose that Laurens Hammond had for his new instrument/organ which "a panel of experts and students displayed a remarkable inability to distinguish from a $75,000 Skinner pipe organ in blindfold tests.”

If I'm not mistaken, the early synthesizers were frowned upon because of their potential ability to put "real musicians" out of work...then along came the arranger keyboards...and finally, the DJ.

A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

Ian



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Remember to leave good news alone.

Long live arrangers and the few that know how to play them

Not one person (outside this forum) I know could even turn my arranger on - yet alone play it! I have years of training and experience that got me to my current level.

We are a fortunate minority folks, whether we know it or not.

zuki

Don't you mean The DNJ?

Look how far arrangers have come. From humble casio machines to real instruments. There is enough variation available that we can be both fakers and originators. As always, the trick is to master your instrument, play for yourself, and for your audience.

hi
if you ever get the chance to sit and play at a top organ like a wersi, lowery, hammond, then not only do you hear the diffrence but you feel it too. like russ said it does feel so diffrent and you realise just how wonderful the great organs are.
bill

Now, don't get me wrong, everybody, you all know I own and use arrangers very gratefully in my professional life, it's just that I don't try to kid myself that using them is any better (or even as good as!) than a real rhythm section.

I try to play with as many full bands as I can, and only use the arranger if budget or opportunity are not there. For those of you that somehow feel that playing with an arranger is 'better' than the real bands you may have played with in your younger days, I feel sad.....

To have never played with musicians that lift your spirits and lubricate your creativity is a great loss, and, no matter how successful your arranger business is, if you lose touch with playing live, with BOTH HANDS, reacting TO what your rhythm section does rather than making it react solely to you, you get further and further away from the source of real music.

Music is a conversation, not a speech.....

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VERY WELL SAID, Diki!

You're absolutely right!

Russ

Diki I know all of what you say playing with 7 pcs for over 20 years....but I'm a realist and have a family that counts on me which is my #1 priority .....call it fakery, magic, or whatever, its a business like any other you make it float or you sink baby thats the bottom line...