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#112568 - 09/11/01 03:28 PM
Re: Is Everybody O.K.??
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/17/99
Posts: 1150
Loc: netherlands
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There are no words to describe what I saw tonight on the cnn news. It was like a horror film. Knowing the WTC very well personally, I immediately realised the huge chance of numerous victims. (untill now no one dare to estimate any number of possible victims, but I am afraid this will exceed anything you can imagin.) As with all the rest I like to express my thought's to all innocent victims.
Fred
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Keyboards/Sound Units: Kurzweil 2600S, Roland VR-760, Acces Virus C, Roland G-800, Akai AX60, Minimoog, Machine Drum, Roland R8-M, mediastation x-76
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#112585 - 09/12/01 11:54 AM
Re: Is Everybody O.K.??
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Member
Registered: 04/14/99
Posts: 585
Loc: British Columbia
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Religion based on paranoia. It amazes me how people..?? (if you can call these idiots people) can try to justify their actions on a belief that only they hold. I'm not a religious person, am I'm not about to get into a theological discussion. I believe in life..that's it..no temple, no shrine, no burning goat, no crutch..nothing. Life is what we make of it. But I do pray, and today I pray for those lost, the families, brothers, sisters, children. And I also pray that the perpetrators, meet a fate deserving of their cowardly act. Nothing can justify these kind of atrocities. My thoughts go out to all of you.
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...L
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#112589 - 09/12/01 05:46 PM
Re: Is Everybody O.K.??
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/17/99
Posts: 1150
Loc: netherlands
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Don, While cleaning up my daw and deleting some old files (some testfiles I made when I just had my Kurzweil K 2600) I realised there was one testfile which expressed exactly my feelings today of this horror attack against innocent people. I don't have any site where I can make it available. Do you mind if I send it to you, so that you can put it on your site? (dont't expect high quality as this was made while I was testing the K 2600 last year.)
Afterall music is for most of us our expression mate.
Let me know. freddynl@xs4all.nl
Fred
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Keyboards/Sound Units: Kurzweil 2600S, Roland VR-760, Acces Virus C, Roland G-800, Akai AX60, Minimoog, Machine Drum, Roland R8-M, mediastation x-76
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#112593 - 09/13/01 04:08 AM
Re: Is Everybody O.K.??
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Member
Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 110
Loc: Sarajevo, BiH
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From Bosnia
This is not fact of politics, this is fact of humanity and inhumanity, and every normal man must be shocked by this.
This is horrible. I can't belive this happens in our modern civilised world. When I came home and have seen these awfully scenes on TV, I couldn't belive - I thought it was some horror film. I feel sorry that this is cruel reality. During the war in my country Bosnia, I also felt the hell of ruins, and my emotions are with every American.
My english language is not so good to express all my anger and sadness for these incidents. I'm deep sorry for all the victims of this non-human act. My deepest sympathy to all the families and friends who mourn these innocent people.
All the responsible persons MUST be punished anyway!
And I must say, this thing doesn't have anything with Buda, Allah, Jesus and others, this cannot have anything with religion. There is no religion that says: "kill" - all of them claims PEACE and tolerantion between humans. Acters of this inhuman act can't be good religious men, but just fanatics and unconsiderable extremists which interpret religions on their awfully way.
Let's God save our friends Americans and all good people around the world.
PEACE
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#112596 - 09/13/01 08:17 AM
Re: Is Everybody O.K.??
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Member
Registered: 01/23/01
Posts: 39
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I have a neghbor here in PR whos went to NY to get a job there and make a better life. Was calling to see if he was ok. since what happend there...finally yesterday got a email from him..had a sigh of releive since I've known him since I've been here...he works in Manhattan, sometimes in WTC as a zerox repairman he is...that day he was send there for a call...and as he stood ready to go there, were he works 14th floor ready to leave...he saw the plane hit and later on, the two buildings collapse...he told me if it was later on the day that this would happend...he probly would not be here today...Im still stuned and angry..I was born in NY and so was my daughter...and thats were I was brought up...to see this is like tearing part of my life away...He also attached the following to the email:
NOSTRODAMUS 1654
"In the year of the new century and nine months, >From the sky will come a great King of Terror, The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city . . . . "
"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two Brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, The great leader will succumb, the third big war will begin when The city is burning.."
Year of the new century and nine monrths = September 2001 45 degrees = New York City …… 45 degrees north latitude Fire = jet fuel explosions Great New City = New York is great city of new world Two Brothers = Twin towers of WTC Chaos = enough said Fortess endures = The pentagon still stands
Third big war = ?????? WW3 ??
God bless us all.... Rube, Puerto Rico
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#112597 - 09/13/01 03:04 PM
Re: Is Everybody O.K.??
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Member
Registered: 08/25/01
Posts: 191
Loc: Mililani, Hawaii, USA
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Yes, we should mourn, we should bury, and we should resolve this by finding and bringing the b*stards to justice, but we should also do something else -- plan for the future.
Being in the line of work I am, I have been thinking about how a repeat of this can be prevented in the future. I sometimes do this as part of my work, and a couple of things have come to me. I hope you don't mind my sharing the slightly more brutal and realistic side of my job:
1. we will need to retrofit our airliners with an access-proof pilot compartment. A solid metal wall between the pilots and cabin, with the cockpit accessible only through its own dedicated door(s) way up front.
2. two or more undercover officers on EVERY flight, dressed as passengers, one seated somewhere near the front and one near the back, equipped with LTL (Less-Than-Lethal) weapons (designed to shoot projectiles such as small beanbags, rubber bullets, wooden blocks, etc., that will not kill nor penetrate the fuselage wall -- we have this technology now, in fact I've used it already on duty).
3. an agreement worded into every airline ticket purchase denoting Implied Consent (much like drunk driving laws now, which are legal and have passed courtroom tests) specifying that when a threat arises, all able-bodied passengers SHALL ASSIST in bringing under control those who would represent that threat. If you disagree, you don't fly.
Armed with the above, and especially after an incident or two transpires wherein these adjustments turn out to have made the difference between the loss, and maintenance of, control over the aircraft, potential terrorists would have to abandon public air transport as their avenue of means and look elsewhere.
Just my 2¢, and the only way I can continue to keep my mind on the positive side of things.
------------------ Regards and Aloha,
Charlie
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#112602 - 09/14/01 05:32 AM
Re: Is Everybody O.K.??
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Junior Member
Registered: 04/17/01
Posts: 23
Loc: woodbridge,ct usa
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I did medical work at the site yesterday. Rest assured that it is a very organized and well equiped operation. Whatever is need at that site is brought in without fail. Every tpe of rescue vehicle,construction machinery,generators,etc is brought in with escort like a presidential motorcade. If you would like to send supplies: particle filter masks,goggles,socks,underwear and work boots are consumed very rapidly ( send to Javit's center or the Red Cross).
Thousands of iron and construction workers are lined up around the block at the Javit's Center ready to go in. Food and water is plentiful. The closer you get to the site the more the acrid smell, the more the irritating smoke,the more the security, (police and military). The worker commaradery is so high all trying to get to any who may be alive (5 fireman and 10 police found yesterday).
The obstacles are staggering: the fires remain burning , the debris is shifting, the surrounding buildings are unstable (the concussion of the WTC collapse was equivalent to a 2.7 earthquake), the basement ot the WTC extends 6 stories underground, the dust and now mud is added to the 460,000 tons of debris on top,within this smoldering stew of debris are the ruptured and fragmented personal and biological remains of 5,000. These are lives that cover many nationalities & religions. Their loved ones congregate at Bellvue and the Armory desperate for any word, poster boards at these locations are covered with thousands of I.D. pictures.
The most moving visual at this time, besides the obvious, is that of alongside the the rescue & construction workers are the firemen who have been here from before the start. Searching for their colleagues trapped while trying to evacuate the WTC. These are New York's bravest, 300 or more of whom were lost when they fearlessly rushed into the doomed builings to do what they did best.
The next wave of emotion for all of us is going to be that of the human tragedy which will take focus at funeral and memorial services in the not to distant future. The most moving emotion now is the absolutely undefeatable New York spirit to take on full frontal whatever obstacle without hesitation.
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