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#112809 - 09/08/07 01:35 PM A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 02/23/01
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We all like to debate on the relative merits of our arranger keyboards; since I believe that an example is worth a thousand words, have thought to post a song recorded -in two separate occasions- on two different keyboards: the Yamaha Tyros 2 and the Roland G-70.
The song was written by the great brazilian composer Ary Barroso (the same one who wrote "Aquarela do Brasil") and the original title is "Na baixa do sapateiro"; however, it has become known all over the world as just "Bahia".
As I said, the two recordings were made in different occasions and for each one I have tried to use the best tools (sounds and styles) the two keyboards had to offer, so they are by no means a carbon copy of each other, nor were they recorded through midifiles.
I will leave further comments for later, if anyone has questions.
The songs can be downloaded either at createsongstyles.com (link
here
) or (only the G-70 version) at Roland-Arranger.com (link here ).
I don't know if, to download them, one has to register; if this is the case, I will try to upload them to my website (but the bandwidth is presently limited).
Let me know if you have problems with the download.
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#112810 - 09/08/07 01:52 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Andrea: No trouble downloading only after finally logging in (with password) to Create/Styles.

It's easy to hear the sound difference between the G70 & T2, with the G70 presening richer bass and the T2 offering more detailed upper mid frequencies. That said, I would expect, thru EQ, EFX, and compressor setting adjustments, you could get BOTH keyboards to sound closer to each other. I acknowledge that I typically need to boost the volume & effects levels of the drum and bass tracks on my Tyros2 to get them to sound the way I like. Both keyboards sound great to my hears, each with something uniquely special to offer. Btw: enjoyed your playing.

Scott
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#112811 - 09/08/07 01:57 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
TwoNuts Offline
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Registered: 05/02/02
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Hi Dreamer,

The first link takes you to your forum thread and does not provide a link for downloading the samples. Scott already mentioned the need to Register or Log In to the website prior to being able to download the samples.
Uploading them to a different site might be preferable in this case.

Regards,

Dennis L. Almond
aka...TwoNuts


[This message has been edited by TwoNuts (edited 09-08-2007).]
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#112812 - 09/08/07 01:58 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Duplicate post

[This message has been edited by TwoNuts (edited 09-08-2007).]
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#112813 - 09/08/07 02:33 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
Dreamer Offline
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ok... I have uploaded both songs to my website, but need to work a bit on it; meanwhile, here is another link for downloading:

click here:
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#112814 - 09/08/07 02:35 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
Dreamer Offline
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P.S.: you have to select a file, then press the "scarica" button.
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#112815 - 09/08/07 02:41 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Loc: Rome - Italy
And this is the link to my website.
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#112816 - 09/08/07 03:57 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Nice tune..I definitly liked the G70 version of the two judging by what Im hearing.....everything about it just sounds so warm & real. But I'd like to hear the same "EXCACT" sound choices played on both Kb's to make a proper assessment of the two.

Thanx

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#112817 - 09/08/07 04:16 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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This is really a no brainer. The G-70 sounds better hands down. I also think that the sounds selected to be played on the G-70 were much more appealing and played as a mix much better than the instrument selection on the Tyros 2. I agree with Donny, similar instruments being used would provide a better assessment of the two. However, it would never truly end the debate.
Kudo's to you Dreamer for the effort though.

Regards,

Dennis L. Almond
aka...TwoNuts


[This message has been edited by TwoNuts (edited 09-08-2007).]
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#112818 - 09/08/07 04:20 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
Both versions had a lot going for them... The percussion sounded great in the Yamaha until that weird tambourine part messed up the groove. Strange rhythm....

The approach and instrumentation were so different on each version that it isn't really a comparison, IMO. If you had tried to match sounds, effects levels and the like, it would have made an interesting choice, but given just how different both versions are, all I can say is first, nice playing!

And then, I like both... About equally. I like the more upfront Roland rhythm section, but I like the pad and harmonica layer in the Tyros. I'd be happy to gig either of them (if I was doing that style of music) but I know I'd keep bruising my fingers going for notes outside the 61 note range!
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