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#112839 - 09/09/07 11:15 AM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
kla4 Offline
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Did I ever recommend a Syrincs ?
It's not only the lack of bass-frequencies, the high f's are way to loud, caused by the EQ/COMP.
The best way to do a recording is without EQ's and extra soundprocessing. Never expect other listeners to have the same speakers (and ears) you are using.
The older you get, the more high-f's you lose, we all know that

I have some nice music-friends that produce similar mixes like the T-2 one. Their ages are 65+ ....... ha!

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#112840 - 09/09/07 12:47 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Originally posted by kla4:

I have some nice music-friends that produce similar mixes like the T-2 one. Their ages are 65+ ....... ha!


Thank you so much, Roel!
Did I ever say that I have been missing you?
Forget it!



[This message has been edited by Dreamer (edited 09-09-2007).]
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#112841 - 09/09/07 01:03 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Andrea: You are 65+?! Give me the name of your plastic surgeon.

Back on topic: Were either/both these song renditions originally recorded to MIDI before recording to audio? If so, though I acknowledge both Yamaha and Roland possess their own uniquely distinctive & impressive 'brand' sound, I think it would be very interesting to go back and re-mix the Tyros2 version, muting the auto accompaniment parts to only those included in G70 version, bringing up the volume & boosting the lower frequencies of the bass & drum parts + adjusting EQ/compressor effects/levels similar to that of the G70 version, and allow us to compare again. - Scott
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#112842 - 09/09/07 01:08 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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A do over? bahahahahahaha

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#112843 - 09/09/07 11:03 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Two totally different styles, two totally different sets of lead sounds, two totally different mixes performed in different locations through different monitor systems...

There's only two things in common between both examples... It's the same song, and the same player (playing different licks)!

It isn't supposed to be an apples to apples comparison (like Purgatory Creek), and shouldn't really be taken that way... At best, it is a slight indicator of sound quality (once you listen past the different mix and effects and EQ) but I am sure, if you wanted to duplicate the sound of each of them on the other, you could, with skill, get VERY close.

I just feel it is an excellent example of showing just how good BOTH are. Each has it's strengths (I felt the Yamaha's percussion better, but the drums weaker, for example) But I'd be happy with the sound of either, once I got a chance to tweak.

This should be an opportunity for us to come TOGETHER, rather than pull us apart (as we so often do). Sonically, they both are good, and with skill, could easily sound even closer.

Form factor, and OS differences, that's another thing... Yamaha's have multi-pads, Roland's have 76 keys. Yamaha's have a sampler (crippled though it is), Roland's have VK Organ (crippled though THAT is) and V-Drum technology. Lot's of differences there. But if you listen to both renditions, and look beyond how differently each was performed and recorded, it's hard to argue that EITHER isn't a great sound....
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#112844 - 09/09/07 11:15 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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Originally posted by Diki:
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Amen to all that!
As I said, I am currently working to another demo; time permitting, I hope to post it within a few days, also because next week I will be out of town.
I welcome technical suggestions from all of you to make this test more meaningful.
Thanks!
A.
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#112845 - 09/09/07 11:19 PM Re: A sonic comparison between Tyros 2 and G-70
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P.S.: first thing I have already done:
I have modified the parameters of the T2 compressor according to the settings used by a Yamaha demonstrator called James Sargeant, as reported by Graham UK on another Forum, a few days ago.
Other ideas?
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