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#113522 - 10/31/02 02:16 PM Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
squeak_D Offline
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Good Lord!!!! This would be one killer of a addition to ANY Yamaha PSR or just any keyboard in general.... The hell with a new keyboard... I think I'm going to save up for this bad boy!!!

http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1658&brandID=4

You can scroll to the bottom of the screen and enlarge the pic.. (it's a really big pic too....)
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#113523 - 10/31/02 03:12 PM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
trtjazz Offline
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Nice unit with alot of nice features.
Terry
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#113524 - 10/31/02 07:18 PM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
DanO1 Offline
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Squeak ,

I just bought a ZOOM 1044 recently to replace my Tascam 788 . I really dig it !


Now that MARS has closed here in Baltimore ,
Maybe I'll become a dealer !

dano
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#113525 - 11/01/02 04:15 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
STAM Offline
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Registered: 10/27/01
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Loc: Brussels, BELGIUM
Excuse for my ignorance but,

Can someone explain to me what is the difference/advantage between this unit and a program like cubase or cakewalk??

Is it a difference in ease to use? quality of sounds? features?

Thanks in advance
STAM

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#113526 - 11/01/02 05:24 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
trtjazz Offline
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Stam,
It's more about how one likes to work. I use Yamaha AW4416 h/d stand alone recorder. Though others that use the software all the time will probably dis agree...(BTW I have Sonar too on my PC but never use it)

Anyway for me....the AW is more straight forward and easy to use.....I push record and go. Whereas with the PC based sequencers for me there is alot more fooling around.....dropout latency problems, patches,midi or wav on and on.

What is fair to say though is the editing of a track isn't even comparable, the PC soft wins hands down. With the AW, although editing is possible it's a hassle and easier to just rerecord a mistake on a track.

So to me it's more in how you are more comfortable working. If you're an old dog like me, it's easier to do it the old way. If you were raised on computers you'll probably more likely like the PC based recording. Another real advantage to the PC based stuff is it's upgradable more easily and cheaper than buying a whole new stand alone unit. And a whole lot cheaper going in too.
jam on,
Terry

[This message has been edited by trtjazz (edited 11-01-2002).]
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#113527 - 11/01/02 07:17 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
squeak_D Offline
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Dan0,
The 1044 is a nice recorder... Did you get the CD burner with yours? This new model is REALLY nice... Did you see how the sliders become a drum mixer? What a great machine..

Squeak
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#113528 - 11/01/02 07:55 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
trtjazz Offline
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Anyone know the going price?
Terry
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#113529 - 11/01/02 09:27 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
Leon Offline
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Loc: British Columbia
I read a review on this unit in "Recording Magazine". Nothing but good things to say about it.
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#113530 - 11/01/02 11:08 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
sk880user Offline
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STAM,

Here is the deal. Cubase is more powerful, flexible, expandable, with potentially better quality depending of course on the hardware.

This device is more convenient, cheaper, easier, self-contained. It is great box to do quick but decent production. Its portability allows it to be used virtually any place.

Now this box is very intereting because it has a built in rythem box and bass track. The fact that it has 20gigs harddisk (assuming that all of the 20 gigs is available for recording), CD writer, 24bit record (and hopefully at least 24 bit processing), places this machine at semi-professional level.

The cons are storage limitation, expandability limitation, cannot pick own FX plugins, limited editing and sequencing cabapability compared to a typical DAW.

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#113531 - 11/01/02 12:07 PM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
trtjazz Offline
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With a 12g hard drive on the AW, here's what I have been able to get on it with room to spare.....

24 tunes average 6 minutes in length, anywhere from 6 to 16 tracks for each tune. That's alot of music and I still did not fill it up.
jam on,
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#113532 - 11/01/02 07:31 PM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
BuleriaChk Offline
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Registered: 06/15/02
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I have an MRS-1044 as a backup to my computer setup (SONAR XL2.0, Roland StudioPak, etc.) It is a very nice unit indeed...

My 1044 has the USB interface, making it very easy to achive stuff to an external hardrive (firewire) on the pc. I like the new one, though - 6 inputs instead of 2.

But I also really like the Yamaha aw16g, because of its sampling capbability; but I may wait until the next iteration for that - the samplers I've seen so far all seem to missing one show-stopper feature (differnt for each sampler. But someday someone wil get it right (hopefully, VSampler/ DR-008)
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#113533 - 11/02/02 12:30 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
ocomain Offline
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Registered: 05/17/01
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This new machine from Zoom will sell for just under a grand...truly one hell of a good deal!

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#113534 - 11/02/02 01:52 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
sk880user Offline
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less than $1000? Now that is a good deal.

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#113535 - 11/02/02 04:56 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
trtjazz Offline
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That is a good price, for something of this caliber.
Terry
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#113536 - 11/02/02 05:27 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
STAM Offline
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Registered: 10/27/01
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Thank you Terry and sk880user for your answer.

The zoom seems to be a really wonderfull toy but I am not sure about the price. The MRS 1044 cd is listed at +/- 1500€ on a belgian site and I think the MRS 1266 cd will be more expensive.

STAM

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#113537 - 11/02/02 06:34 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
technicsplayer Offline
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I had the mrs4 a couple of months to play around with. This was a 4 track battery machine that dumped on smart media flash cards and good value compared to the korg equivalent. At first I thought the sound not too good because it used compression similar to mp3 to fit on the cards. But after a while I warmed to it for a recording toy for someone with a keyboard or guitar in their bedroom who wanted a drum machine too.

Then I tried this 1044 model with the cd burner. It offers very good value indeed, the only down side was small display, and fiddly editing with the cursor buttons. But there is a lot on offer for the money. If you can record in long takes and do not need to bounce tracks too much it is fine. The other thing is they need an update to usb 2 really because usb 1.1 is a little too slow to backup huge wave files. But then you have the cd burner built in.

I only got rid of it because the keyboard now has usb audio, so burning a cd on the laptop is actually quicker and just as easy really but with the advantage of no analogue stages at all.

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#113538 - 11/02/02 08:08 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
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Does anyone know if this unit (or similar units) is practical for use on a gig... playing live? Will it stop at the end of each song and does it have any kind of juke-box or song chain feature?

Thanks,
Glenn

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#113539 - 11/02/02 07:18 PM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
BuleriaChk Offline
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Registered: 06/15/02
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Loc: Santa Barbara,CA,USA
As long as we're on this topic, I have an MRS-1044 (no CD) that I don't need anymore, since I no am using the Roland StudioPak have a Zoom RT-323 drum machine.

The unit includes the USB interface, and has the latest operating system and drum kits installed.

Contact me privately if you're interested;

BuleriaChk@aol.com

and maybe both of us can be happy campers...:-)

Best Regards,

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#113540 - 11/05/02 11:59 AM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
B2 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/01
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Loc: Westfield, Massachesetts, USA
Just an update...Music 123 has the basic model for $499.00 and the one with the CD burner for $799.00...Can't beat that deal...Also look at ZZounds user remarks and reviews on the recorder...also Music 123 has some reviews...Good Luck Brian

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#113541 - 11/05/02 12:08 PM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
Uncle Dave Offline
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I bought the CD model to take with me when I moved out of the house in September. Since I will be living in "one room" situations for the next litle while .... I needed an all in one setup that allowed me to be mobile, yet functional. This has turned out to be a greatr choice. I only made a few tracks so far, but I am impressed with the unit. I recorded a guitar/vocal cover of an old Dusty Springfield song and burned it to CD .... it sounds great.
I highly recommend it ..... especially at the price !
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#113542 - 11/05/02 01:20 PM Re: Holy Crap! Check out this digital multi track recorder from Zoom!!!
trtjazz Offline
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UD,
Dusty or Buffalo (with Stephen Stills etc.)? What came to my mind was ...
"something happenin here what it is ain't exactly clear, ......stop hey what's that sound everybody look what's goin' down."

Or am I way off here?.....Probably.
jam on,
Terry
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