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#114527 - 11/30/99 01:39 PM
Re: Yamaha QY70: Arranger Keyboard Substitute?
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Scott, I want to try to get something clear here. If what you want to do is set a split point on your keyboard and play three note chords on the left hand which will trigger a Drummer, Bass player, and up to 6 more rhythm tracks including guitars, keyboards, horns, etc., then the QY 70 will do all that. If you want to play a chord on the left hand and play a single melody line on the right hand and have duet, trio, block, jazz, country harmony on the right hand, than the QY70 is not for you. I can't tell if this is what you want. You mention "keyboard harmony's" in your post, and what that means to me is playing one note but hearing several as harmony voices. Is this what you are looking for. If it is, there are no small battery operated units that will do this. The Korg i40m which is larger and has a disk drive, will give you harmony on the right hand while triggering chords on the left hand, or full pianist mode that will play chords accross the entire keyboard. Please clarify this for me. George kaye
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#114529 - 11/30/99 05:05 PM
Re: Yamaha QY70: Arranger Keyboard Substitute?
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Registered: 03/24/99
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Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA
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Hi Scott As you know, I'm no expert. But I did have a Roland PMA-5 for a while. And it does exactly what you imply. That is, it reads your left hand chords from a midi keyboard and can "record" them to a backing sequence, which you can then play back and play a real time right melody to. Not like an arranger keyboard at all. I think the QY70 might be the same. I'm not sure, but I don't think it will work the way you want it. You should consider buying one from a dealer with a good return policy. Then audtion it - if it's not what you need, back it goes. One last thing, though not battery powered, the Korg iS40M module is very, very nice. Basically, it's the module (keyless) version of my iS40 keyboard - which I love. But I think it includes a vocal harmonizer as well. I know it's not what you're searching for, but I want to say it's a beautiful thing. Take care... Tom
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#114534 - 12/01/99 01:38 AM
Re: Yamaha QY70: Arranger Keyboard Substitute?
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Scott, I'm not sure how much more I can say on the QY70 subject. However, before going on I have to set everyone straight on the PMA-5 matter. "You cannot play chords on the PMA-5 from a midi controller keyboard." Anyone who thinks so is wrong. I'm sorry to be so strong on this but I have been selling these for years now, and I've had to proove this to potential customers several times by actually calling Roland Corp. US and having the customers speak with a tech support person. The only thing you can play via midi keyboard is the tone generator. No chords can be played via midi. You can only record chord changes by step or realtime recording by using the supplied pencil. I hope this finally clarifies what the PMA-5 is and is not capable of doing. Also, I think I have already given my opinion on the i40m module. I love it but realize it doesn't run on batteries and so wouldn't help you on you quest. It does add the vocal harmonizer and a guitar input with guitar effects including wah, distortion, reverb, echo, etc. etc. Now, yes, you did find the one paragraph in the QY70 that explains turning on the fingered mode enabling midi control of the chords. And yes you are correct that if you move the split point all the way up to the last key you can have a pianist mode, however, no right hand sound will be played with the fingered chords. And yes, if you split the keyboard (actually you are spliting the QY70) you will have a sound on the right hand and the chords on the left hand. Now, I think this covers everything, and again please let me explain to all of the others who have posted replys to help you, I am a music store owner and I sell all of these products you are all using and talking about. I have a very good working knowledge of almost every product we discuss here. I am certainly no genius but I do consider myself an expert compared to many music store salespeople. I enjoy giving my support to you all and enjoy the discussions we all share on this forum. George Kaye Kaye's Music Scene Reseda, California. 818-881-5566
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#114536 - 12/01/99 07:10 AM
Re: Yamaha QY70: Arranger Keyboard Substitute?
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Registered: 02/17/00
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Hi Scott and George
First of all, let me say that I agree that George Kaye is the leading expert on all the arrangers that we discuss in this forum. It is fine with me if he has the last word. But George, others like to help too. I hope you are not suggesting that the rest of us should not bother to share what we think or know. But I do want to hear more from you. I would like to hear more about the Korg I40m. Also, if you know what this Kurzweil Arranger is about.
Scott, to try to answer your last question, I do own the QY70. I waited through the QY10, QY20, QY22 until Yamaha got it right with the QY70. I have a Roland A50 keyboard, 76 keys, polyphonic aftertouch, that I like and did not want to give it up. The QY70 does turn the A50 into an Arranger. To answer your last question, I tried inversions yesterday and got patterns only in root position. Hopefully, George Kaye can confirm/disconfirm this.
To answer your previous question to me, I consider the QY70 to be a marvel. It seems to have no competition in its size range. Still, I hesitate to recommend it too strongly to you. I found the QY70 tedious to use and purchase a PSR-8000, which I find much more fun to use. When you want to change from pattern 20 to pattern 80, do you really want to step through 60 patterns? Do you want to have to hook up to a computer to enter or save data to a disk.
I recommend thinking carefully about the need for a battery powered device. Consider the Korg 140m, the QY700, and there is a general music arranger module. It sounds like George Kaye would recommend the i40m. All of these devices have disk drives so that you can easily play midi files, load and save styles, etc. If you cannot live with the extra weight and requirement for AC power, the QY70 is your best bet. You might love it--or you might be irritated by its compromises. I hope this helps. Clif
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