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#116485 - 09/16/06 08:30 PM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
Nick G Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
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just to add to that,

Tyros 2 has a lot more variety for modern dance music than most people think.

the sounds and the styles are perfect fit for sooo many modern dance techno songs.

I pretty much bought the T2 just for the dance stuff and I am MORE than content with it.

It all depends on how creative you can be as well...
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#116486 - 09/16/06 09:07 PM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
Although the T2 will import aif and wav, it does not import any multi-sample format, so to import a techno kit, for instance, or a good set of minimoog samples, whatever, you have to do a LOT of work to make your own keymaps, programming, etc.. Korg will import keymaps from Akai disks, amongst others, so a lot of the work is already done for you. That's what I mean by a closed system. It only reads T2 keymaps, no others.......

Wait til you try to program a good, multi-velocity drum kit by laboriously importing each and every wav, and prepare the keymap and velocity splits...... Talk about tedious!

Akai is the de facto standard for hardware samplers, and as such, any pro sampler should be able to import this format.......
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#116487 - 09/17/06 12:58 AM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
Nick G Offline
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I have found that the reason why most Tyros 2 owners are not so fussed about its sampling strength is becuase the factory sound quality of the drum kits and other sounds are SO GOOD - end of story!
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#116488 - 09/17/06 01:16 AM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
Diki Offline


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Yeah, right..... keep telling yourself that. Doesn't it burn you, though, to have paid for a feature that is, essentially, crippled?

No arguments about the sound quality of the internals, though. But there's always room for more......

Just keep asking Yamaha for Akai format reading..... Who knows? Enough of you ask, and Yamaha might add it (or get Chickensys to write a computer converter)....!
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#116489 - 09/17/06 01:43 AM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
Carrie-uk Offline
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Registered: 02/23/04
Posts: 168
Loc: England
I think it could be much better with some real-time control knobs for the filters, for this type of music anyway.

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#116490 - 09/17/06 03:40 AM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
dani_76_es Offline
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Registered: 06/12/06
Posts: 81
Loc: Madrid,Espaņa
Thanks to all for opinions.Maybe i have to wait for the new PA800...i do not know.
As i saw,T2 need time and experience to import sounds and multipads...i have not its.
I want to play some dance-trance styles and sounds like ATB,Paul van Dyk etc;too..i want to play some Jean Michel Jarre,Vangelis Enigma styles.
WITH THE AMABILITY OF TWO MEMBERS OF SZ(BTW,THANKS A LOT TO YOU)I HAVE SOME GOOD J.M.Jarre and Vangelis styles in Yamaha format converted from Korg.On Korg format sounds very very close.I do not know if in Yamaha format sounds too...o better..hihi.
If anybody wants it please write me(are free,of course):dani_76_es@yahoo.es
Nick,check your e.mail,please.
greetings from Madrid(Espaņa)

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#116491 - 09/17/06 03:52 AM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
Nick G Offline
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Registered: 11/16/05
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Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Yeah, right..... keep telling yourself that. Doesn't it burn you, though, to have paid for a feature that is, essentially, crippled?

No arguments about the sound quality of the internals, though. But there's always room for more......

Just keep asking Yamaha for Akai format reading..... Who knows? Enough of you ask, and Yamaha might add it (or get Chickensys to write a computer converter)....!


Nah it doesnt burn me, neither does it burn other T2 owners. if we wanted a proper sampler then we would have bought a synth... cheers mate
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#116492 - 09/17/06 04:03 AM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
dani_76_es Offline
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[This message has been edited by dani_76_es (edited 09-18-2006).]

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#116493 - 09/17/06 05:31 PM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by Nick G:
Nah it doesnt burn me, neither does it burn other T2 owners. if we wanted a proper sampler then we would have bought a synth... cheers mate


So now we're back to the 'my keyboard, right or wrong' stuff that got the whole flame-wars started in the first place?

It pisses me off that the OTS section on the G70 is crippled (although a new OS might soon fix it), I'm livid that the reverb send on the B3 section of the G70 is pre-Leslie. There are always areas that a keyboard can be improved. But I'm not going to change it, because what it does do is perfect for me. For now......

But that doesn't mean I can't criticize it, and if you can't bring yourself to admit that an aspect of YOUR current favorite keyboard needs improvement, what does that say about your objectivity?

These things are tools, NOT our children!


[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 09-17-2006).]

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#116494 - 09/17/06 05:34 PM Re: PA1X vs T2 for dance-trance music
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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Sorry, double post

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 09-17-2006).]
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