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#117385 - 12/02/02 04:10 PM Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Loc: Reseda, California USA
6 Tyros Keyboards arrived at 2PM and I've installed 6 IBM 10 GB hard drives which work great! I only wish I had time to play with them but I'm shipping 5 out tonight and have to get them all "loaded Up". I've only listened to two styles so far and all I can say is "wow", just as I remembered from my day with the Tyros a few months ago. I'll get back with more info later.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#117386 - 12/02/02 06:16 PM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
Lou Y Offline
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Registered: 10/12/02
Posts: 198
Loc: NY USA
George,
Regarding the hard drives, was it quiet in operation, and how difficult to install?
Thanks, Lou
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#117387 - 12/02/02 07:25 PM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
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Lou,
Simon put up a thread with pictures not too long ago here all about the h/d install. http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/004947.html

Have a look at this one too. http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/005259.html
Terry



[This message has been edited by trtjazz (edited 12-02-2002).]
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#117388 - 12/02/02 08:33 PM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Lou,
It couldn't be easier. After taking off the bottom black cover and removing the four screws which hold the hard disk holder, I just took the 4 screws under the mounting board off (which hold the hard drive to the hard mount), mounted the hard drive to the holder with the four screws provided and then you just slide the board on it's mount straight into the connector which is right in line with the hare drive. There are no cables to attach at all. Then, I turn on the keyboard, go to "Function", then to "Utility", hit the key next to format hard drive and in about 2 seconds, it's formatted. One of the other things that surprised me was when copying a floppy disk with 20 songs to the hard drive, it only took about 30 seconds to do the whole disk. On most keyboards this takes a lot more time....So, for those of you waiting to receive your Tyros keyboards from me, I've copied about 100 songs with lyrics and harmony plus about 100 XMAS tunes. It took such a little time to copy them that I was happy to do this.
I tried the guide feature where you play the keyboard to a song and it follows your tempo and it worked great. I also tried this when singing and it also worked great.
I played some of the new styles and I had everyone hanging around my store falling in love with this keybaord. Of course I expected the mega voices to knock everyone out, but it was also the great new styles that got there attention. I played a funk style which sounded like the band Tower of Power was in my store. I can't wait to go to work tomorrow and arrive early so I can play around for a couple of hours. I'm so tired tonight after installing the hare drives and repacking the keyboards for shipment, that I didn't stay much after closing to play around. After a good night sleep tonight, I will be fresh and ready to go in the morning.
Yamaha received fewer than expected for their first shipment last week, but more arrived today and they expect to have inventory for a few weeks. Again, not that many dealers ordered Tyros. Many are really afraid to stock these $3000.00 arranger keyboards. It's fine with me, I'll get more next week now!
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#117389 - 12/02/02 08:37 PM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
NEWNEW Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
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George, where are you getting the 10 GIG IBM 2.5" 9.5MM Drives? I can find 30 and 40 GIG drives but not 10 GIG. Since the drives will just be holding Tyros program data (no audio or samples) I would think 10 GIG drives would be more than enough disk space (right?).

Does a 5400rpm drive make any difference over the 4200rpm drives when used in the Tyros?

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#117390 - 12/02/02 10:01 PM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
Lou Y Offline
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Registered: 10/12/02
Posts: 198
Loc: NY USA
Quote:
The Tyros actually reads harddisk partitions also, but cannot partition a drive so you need to partition and format the drive either on a 9000/9000 pro or using a PC.


George,
It does seem pretty straight forward, but this post of Simons seems to be confusing regarding the formatting.... Thanks for the reply...Lou

Thanks Terry
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#117391 - 12/03/02 01:38 AM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
svpworld Offline
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Registered: 08/16/00
Posts: 442
Loc: UK
If you want to partition your harddrive for use with the Tyros, then you need to do so either on a pc computer or on a PSR9000/9000 pro. The tyros doesn't have any facility to create or format partitions, but it will recognise them if they are present. My drive was formatted on a standard PC using a 2.5" adaptor for the IDE connection. Although 10GB is probably ample for the Tyros, the cost of drives is so that often a few extra GB's are worth it. Its cheaper in the long run, although as pointed out unless you intend storing lots of bitmap images for your karaoke backdrops, you probably won't need that much room!
Also, on the subject of a 2.5" IDE convertor for your PC computer, its definitely worth having one if only to transfer large amounts of stuff to the drive. The USB connection is fine for a few midis, styles but too slow for major bulk transfers of 100's of MB. The convertors I mentioned fit into a 5.25" bay and only cost a few dollars, even if you only use it once its a must!

Regards
Simon


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#117392 - 12/03/02 07:01 AM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I have a local wholesale hard drive supplier I use and he doesn't sell to the public. The hard drive is a 2.5" 12mm size. I sell these drives for $150.00 and I install them for my customers buying the Tyros.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
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#117393 - 12/03/02 08:54 AM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
George,

Did you by any chance receive any Tyros Speakers (TRS-MS01) along with your first Tyros keyboard shipment? I had heard (rumor?) that Tyros speakers won't be arriving to Yamaha USA from Japan till the end of the year. True?

Scott
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#117394 - 12/03/02 01:32 PM Re: Tyros Arrives at Kaye's Music Scene
George Kaye Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Tyros Speakers and stands will not be available until probably January. I just spent the past 5 hours trying out this keyboard. I really can't imagine anyone not being as thrilled with it's sounds and styles as I am. It's easy to use, the operating system although similar to the PSR2000 is easier to navigate, and I love the ability to change the view to "scroll" and be able to use the keys below the screen to directly call up a song, style or voice from a 0 - 9 number system.
The styles Yamaha call "pro" are like nothing I've heard before. The keys feel good to me. there are led weights glued to the bottom of each key. I've tried out the "guide" feature both with singing vocals and playing the keys and although they both work, I don't think the Pro guys would use this feature, because although it waits for you, you really don't seem to be able to make the song playback any slower or faster than the tempo it started with. Although it is easy to use and I certainly haven't had enough time to try it out long enough yet. It's really easy to record songs and I love using the hard drive along with the user memory for direct access to songs, styles and user styles.
For those who have ordered and are waiting for this board, I say it's worth the wait and for those who haven't jumped in yet and are waiting for their stores to receive their's, go try it.
I will have 3 more available by Thursday if anybody is interested in buying from my store.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
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