I disagree and made several points to that effect in your old posts. I wouldn't have considered any arranger ten years ago and today I wouldn't consider anything except an arranger for stage use - they certainly have improved on their own terms or I wouldn't use one. But there is nothing to stop you from creating your own arranger if today's offerings don't meet your needs: the Open Lab's eKo could be customized into any configuration you could want, from sounds to control surfaces, the latest processors and moemory to every I/O you can imagine - in effect it could be the best arranger ever concieved - and it isn't selling because the price is too high. Those of us who want a fully-customizable arranger are making our own (see some of the FLR threads in this group). So there's nothing to stop you from making your own dream arranger with stock stuff if you have the time and money.

One other thing: you have to remember that the arrangers talked about on this forum are mostly the portable and less expensive kind... home arrangers that go from $10k and up include many features that we've been asking for but they don't get discussed here because we're not in that price market (I sit in on a forum of Yamaha CVP-series users and their needs/concerns are much different from ours).

Why don't you start your own thread on arranger technology instead of hijacking the threads of others?

I wouldnt know how to hijack a thread but isnt taking part in discussion allowed here or do we all have to conform and buy into the standard, whether thats yours or an established one?

If going by previous threads there are many visitors reading these posts (it would be interesting to know just how many), then we all must take a responsible approach to drive for stuff that we want, and that doesnt mean pointing out hardware faults that maybe 3% of users might have and making a big thing out of it, which really at the end of the day doesnt amount to much. You may know what i mean

it would be fairly easy to look up the net for OMB gear over 7 years and quote this product against that, but all that would do, would be to show cosmetic differences to most people reading and if anything prove some of the points here, BUT ONLY COSMETICALLY. In 1997 we had products with touch scrreens, 64 notes, thousands of sounds........

The question boils down to, for you or anyone is "do you want better products?""

I would have, at the very least, given the wealth of experience here thought that there would be many ideas to help improve your working life? I aint seeing them?

Major difference in weight and versatility. For years I used a B3, Suitcase Rhodes, a small Korg synthesizer (don't remember the model number) a string machine I built from a kit (ugh), a 147 RV, a Kustom PA with a separate delay unit, a cheesy Multivox drum machine...no active eq, no monitors and two of the heaviest, almost square 15" cabinets.I've ever seen. That was an upgrade from a Shure Vocalmaster and those long multi-speaker colums and an echoplex.

Still, I miss old Jimmy Smith style playing,
and look back fondly at everything but transporting the stuff. Back then it was nothing for house jobs to last 5 or more years, so moving was limited to outside jobs.

I guess that's progress...

russ

digitalvision:

Again, you are ignoring my answer to your question. It's very difficult to discuss much with you if you refuse to acknowledge the replies that your posts generate.

The topic here is "Have the different advances in technologies helped to improve your live performance?" and all of the replies have delt with that issue, except for digitalvision's. Unless you plan on answering the original question then you should start your own thread. (FYI: "hijacking" is taking the thread away from it's topic). It's just a matter of courtesy, and it helps to organize the subjects and responses better.

I would be happy to discuss your topic of "do you want better products" in it's own thread, assuming you are at least somewhat familiar with the technology I have already mentioned in my replies to you. That would also answer your question about how much interest there is in your topic.

Yes and no to the first part, with room for a lot of improvement from the manufacturers.