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#120285 - 09/30/04 06:28 AM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
Dnj Offline
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Hmmmmmmm....Imo a "Knob" or "Sliders" is more user friendly in real time not only for Mic Vol but for all Important adjustments while you play, comon Yamaha get some sliders!!
....I'm a KB Navation Freak or maybe its a personal preference?



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#120286 - 09/30/04 07:57 AM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
Fran Carango Offline
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Also, a knob/slider is a visual control..you can see where the setting is set..
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#120287 - 09/30/04 08:04 AM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
Dnj Offline
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Good points Fran......

Dave...I think you meant "Forgeddabouttit" [Brooklyn sp]

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#120288 - 09/30/04 08:23 AM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
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Silly boize .... a quick glance at the screen tells you EXACTLY what volume setting is at! Much more presise than guessing at a knob placement.
You know I love ya, but you're really missing the boat on this one.
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#120289 - 09/30/04 09:12 AM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by keybplayer:
[B] I hate to disappoint you Dave but I believe the reason manufacturers are making more and more Keyboards 'Silver' is because they reflect heat better. Black or darker colors in general tend to 'absorb' heat (from an external source) more. Black or darker colors also tend to 'retain' heat more and to a 'greater' magnitude than Silver or lighter colors do.

And with Processors and other electronic Chips, etc. getting stronger and more powerful, that is only more reason for manufacturers to make Keyboard housings Silver or other heat 'reflective' and 'dissipating' friendly colors. >> To stave off the "HEAT" and keep Keyboards cooler internally. [B]


Probably not the real reason.

Dell and Gateway computers with the new pocessors and chips have all gone to black computers.

Jerry

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#120290 - 09/30/04 11:35 AM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
tony mads usa Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:

Dave...I think you meant "Forgeddabouttit" [Brooklyn sp]

youse NJ guyz don' know nuttin ....

fuggeddabowddit !!!!!
t.
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#120291 - 09/30/04 02:53 PM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
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Aw .... ya mudda !
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#120292 - 10/01/04 01:26 AM Re: Uncle Dave is getting married !
keybplayer Offline
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Originally posted by Jerryghr:
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Probably not the real reason.

Dell and Gateway computers with the new pocessors and chips have all gone to black computers.

Jerry


Interesting observation Jerry. Although they're not ALL black as we know. But the main difference in Computers that are black over an electronic Keyboard is that usually you don't find Computers hooked up outside in direct sunlight with upper double or even triple digit temperatures (in °F), as you would many times when and if you gig with a Keyboard. Plus Computers have "Fans" inside them to help keep them cool. Plus also there are "Vents" in the Back where the hot air is 'forced' out by the Fans and you usually find Fans in the front of the Computer also, to draw cooler air in (found at the base of computers where the air is generally cooler because of being lower to the ground - cool air drops whilst hot air rises as we all know or should know . That's why Fans on the 'back' of Computers are usually at or near the top of the computer in the rear so the hot air (which rises) can be 'forced' out by the 'Fans'.

Even so, there are 'more' fans than just the case and power supply Fans. There are Fan[s] for the "CPU", and even sometimes for the Hard Drive itself. The Computers 'case' oftentimes has vents on the side where air can flow into and circulate around the computer's case and its interior. And you just don't find that most of the time in Keyboards unfortunately. And Fans are usually unheard of in Keyboards so there is a significant difference we're talking about here.

Plus again you usually find computers at an office or in a home where there is usually moderate temperatures and oftentimes it's 'air conditioned' to boot.

Keyboards are exposed to much greater heat risks because they lack not only the air flow and direct cooling methods of computers but they are also exposed to greater temperature extremes (gigging in direct sunlight oftentimes at extreme temperatures comes to mind) and many times Keyboards lack the things necessary to keep them cool such as fans and vents and "heat reflective" composite materials that work along the same principle; i.e. "light" colored composites that are heat reflective and also dissipate heat better and faster than darker colored composites do, as darker colors [composites] tend to "absorb" heat to a greater magnitude (degree) and not only that but they tend to retain the heat longer.

With Processors getting faster and more powerful (and more power hungry) along with other internal devices in Keyboards such as transformers, power supplies, and transistors which btw are increasing exponentially in high tech electronics as technology advances and increases.

Think "Moores Law" which has generally held true up to the present: "that the number of transistors on a chip would double every 18 months". Along with more transistors, which makes for more powerful processors plus other power hungry parts I spoke of earlier, comes the greater heat which they emanate and results in an ever increasing risk to the stability and longevity of not only Keyboards in general, but also in their functionality as a whole; over an extended period of time without giving up the ghost.

Best regards,
Mike

PS: All in favor of greater longevity in Keyboards say Aye!!...... >> But alas, we hear UD and Fran in the background shout NAY!!

Dave because he changes Keyboards more often than he does his socks it seems; so he could care less. And Fran, because he's soooooo enamored with his G1000: which is black.

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