Cass - didn't get the 900 just yet and still interested in the G70

zuki

good luck with the new board, i have a triton extreme and love it. I use it in the studio however , i'm using my tyros 2 live.

but i just found a dealer in orlando whom has them in stock, I'm gonna try one tomorrow unless my wife threatens me.

Spent 7900.00 so far in 2007. hopefully i don't fall in love with it or i may be homeless

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Mikey

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thanks fran, i was just worried with all the other stuff in between, the question would get buried, and i AM really interested in his views
cheers m8
dennis

Hi Dennis,

Ignoring all the stupid bullshit posted previously under my initial listing I will try to answer your questions.

AS you know the Sd1+ is a fine arranger with IMHO some of the finest sounds available. Quality build & really nice key bed.....but you really have to know its OS which is very different then any other KB on the market. Its primitive looking compared to all the bells & whistles, colored Icons etc etc but highly functional in its mono-color basic look. Its really a serious arranger with many kool features & also many I longed for too.....like STS & Multi pads to beef up your performance & get more creative....the ancient Floppy drive is very usable but indeed stone-age compared to what we have now with 2.0 USB/Firewire etc. To me the SD1 is a RAW sounding arranger with a very LIVE in your face sound to it sought of UNGATED with sound & styles WIDE OPEN & must be tamed with editing & tweaking very intensely giving the player no leeway, but once controlled can give you a very nice playing environment "If you know what to do" for a 76 its design is the smallest Ive seen.....having the joysticks up on the deck is a hindrance & out of the immediate playing field which I didn't like at all. Compared to the Pa800 & T2 its it no where as flexible in many ways style wise or sound wise.....not that the the SD1+ is bad its just very different. The Pa800 & T2 have a polished CD like compressed sound the Yamaha even more then the Korg. Ive only had the Korg 2 days so far ....but I can tell the improvements over my old Pa80 are very pleasing and very
VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT for the player even more so then the Sd1+ & T2 in so many ways.
Starting with being able to use the SONGBOOK which is so much more then the Yamaha MFD which doesn't allow saving Transpose, & you can also save in one CUSTOME list SMF, Mp3, Kar, this is by far the most powerful feature I have ever seen on an arranger for live performance playing.
The Pa800 Key-bed & feel to me is more comparable to the Tyros 2 then the Sd1+/G70 a bit lighter but sturdy and tight. The Pa800 display & touch screen is a pleasure to manipulate ....plus you have the all the well layed out on-board buttons to navigation as well.....& many ASSIGNABLE sliders/buttons to setup and really make the KB YOUR OWN. The Tc Helicon Vocalizer is second to none ...only the Roland G70/D5 is comparable on an on-Board harmonizer...having Expert view & an EASY View with just the essentials to see on screen is a nice feature also as is the DUAL SMF player with mixing SLIDER to go between 2 songs at once ....this could be very useful. The new styles are very inspiring Im still exploring them all but of what Ive played there are so many that are useful for me & having 3 intro/ending is a plus especially #2 which lets YOU the player create the chords, something like the G70 has also...I was concerned about the sounds coming from some of the awesome ones on the SD1+ like the trumpets & Brass but I have to tell you I was pleasantly surprised with the PA800....the way they have the STS setup which by the wya are ALL Programable as is Everthing on the PA800 are very pleasing, usefull & well thought out and on Par with anything on the Tyros2 excluding SA, but not needed if you play some of the great V sounds on the Korg for example the Rock Organ V is wonderful....if you play lightly you get no Leslie effect, but if you put more pressure the leslie kicks in very kool! ....sonically the Pa800 sounds amazing out of the box with OS1.51 installed...so far Im happy and as I said I need more time to make a better assessment but Dennis I will return with more info on my progress asap OK?

have a nice day

Donny




[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-14-2007).]

Donny,great comparison/review. Lots of great features, especially the songbook feature, that sounds like a real winner. Keep us posted.

Nick, very well said.

I would like to add, that in addition to what you said above, Donny Pesce's constant & continuing habit of posting something, and then 5-50 minutes later editing it to COMPLETELY ALTER both "meaning & intent", or often later completely deleting his posts (including initial thread posts), I see as an attempt to HIDE what he ACTUALLY said before the moderator views it. This I find totally unacceptable,, especially after people have taken thoughtful time to reply, and then discover what they were replying to suddenly missing. Thank goodness, for the SZ 'quote' feature to preserve what DNJ 'actually' said.

Scott

Hi Donny,
Thank you for your thoughts on the Pa800.
I would expect that the key-bed is the same as they use on there X3 ? Hammond B3 copy.
If so that is a good thing , as I have played that and was very pleased with the key feel.
You talked about the sound quality and compared it to CD sound rather than raw instrument sound , that also I think is a good thing.
Being and old Organ "grinder" how are the Organ sounds?
I know it has draw bars and you can vary the roto speed by using the mod. stick.
Plastic screen , are you concerned about scratching after a period of time or is made of really good scratch resistance
plastic ?
Anyway , have fun with your new board and best of luck to `ya !!
Looking forward to more reviews and info as you get more familiar with your new A-KB.
Later
Gary

[This message has been edited by jedi (edited 09-14-2007).]

The Pa800 organs are very nice with many different styles covered, plus the virtual digital drawbars are so easy to use on the screen with all the switches, speed, perc, etc etc ..


I know it has draw bars and you can vary the roto speed by using the mod. stick.
Plastic screen , are you concerned about scratching after a period of time or is made of really good scratch resistance
plastic ?

the screen is good, fast, attentive & accurate.....the face is firm and doesn't give when pressed in normal use .


Anyway , have fun with your new board and best of luck to `ya !!
Looking forward to more reviews and info as you get more familiar with your new A-KB.
Later
Gary

thanx I'll know more in time Gary




[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-14-2007).]

thanks heaps donny,
Korg certainly have a way of doing things that are just so "pro" if i can use that word..the 2 biggest things i miss from the PA 800 i owned are the songbook (imo the best of its type) and the harmonizer, for the same reason..fwiw i reckon you have made a big step up in a performance 'board!!..i could never have survived the keys on it though, way too light for me, and not enough..but that was it, the keybed was the only reason i dont own it still, but i will now be certainly seriously considering the PA2X when it is released in november.
thanks again for your thoughtful and in depth reply, its appreciated..
cheers
dennis

Thanks for the reply Donny,
About the screen , I`m sure it`s sturdy , but what about scratches , over time ?
Are you concerned or bothered by that ?
From what I have read , I guess if it bothered that much , you can also operate it with just the buttons.

I new Korg PAX2 ???? In Nov. . where did you hear that ?
Maybe I should wait , and bad key feel ( O_no ) .

We ( I ) need quality key-bed`s
Don`t need W&B ( Hammer Action ) but don`t want to break them either !!

Thanks guys !!
Later,
Gary