I just spoke with Yamaha and I got them to go down to their training lab with the 2000 and a MFC10 foot controller and they just informed me that it works! There was no time for my friend in the PSR division to explain to me how to get it to work but he will call me later. Good news for those needing this function!
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

Na-na-na-na-na! I told you so.
The 2000 has a place in the midi setup for a User templates. It will just be a matter of assigned the proper set of sysex commands.
Yamaha should be able to do that easily.
DonM
P.S. Thanks George!!

Gearge,

Thanks for your investigation for us on the MFC10 pedal. I am sure that Yamaha should be able to provide a MIDI setup template for the support of MFC10 on PSR2000. Should we ask for this feature in their next OS release for PSR2000?

Thanks,

Paul Ip
from Texas

GREAT news George! All of us PSR people THANK YOU for your help. Here's a link to the MFC10 owner's manual (in PDF file format): http://www.yamaha.com/ycaservice/mp4model/mfc10.htm
Hopefully it might help us understand just how to setup the MFC10 with the PSR2000 as well as how to program it to understand (via midi) the PSR2000's many arranger functions. Unfortunately I haven't had time to read this MFC10 PDF file myself yet. Maybe one of our midi experts on the board (Paul Ip or?) could take a peek and make suggestions. I'm particularly interested in programming the MFC10 to recognize the PSR2000's: style start/stop; fill self, fill up, fill down, break, and ending functions as well as triggering the multipads. George, I'm really looking forward to hearing what your Yamaha guy says about HOW TO get the MFC10 setup to work on the PSR2000. Hope it's not difficult.

I have a Peavey midi controller. Maybe I'll hook it up and give it a try. It should work the same way as Yamaha's. Can't hurt to try.
DonM

Ok............IT WORKS!
Mark Anderson, Product Manager for Yamaha was on the phone with me for an hour setting up the MFC10 to work. Mark, if you are reading this, THANK YOU!
It's great! I programmed buttons 1-4 to be variation changes, button's 5 to be intro, 6 and 7 to be start and stop and the foot controller to be volume for midi channel 10 so I can change the volume of the drum track in a midi file when playing back. The internal foot controller can be set up to do many things and you can use 4 additional external FC7 foot control pedals to do different things like volumes, effects, panning, etc. There is a list of parameters that can be set up on page 15 of the MFC10's owners manual. I also have 10 banks of settings in the MFC10 that can be memorized any way I want so I can program one bank to be tempo changes, one bank to be bass notes, one bank to be section controls, etc. It took awhile for me to understand how to do it, but once I got it, it was really easy. It's also really easy to switch the banks on the MFC10 with your foot whenever you want to use a different bank. The banks are numbered from 0 - 9.
I asked Mark if there could be templates in another operating system and his initial answer was that this probably would not work. The reason is that on the PSR9000 or 9000pro, you have to plug the midi cables in from the MFC10's in and out into the in and out of the 9000's "B" midi in and out. This is because the 9000 support midi channels 1 -16 in port A and 17 - 28 in port B with the last 4 midi channels dedicated for system exclusive data. This accounts for the templates sending information to set up the MFC10 from the midi in and out of port "B".
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

Does anyone think it would be possible to set up one button on the controller to insert a count-in intro when a 6-bar intro is selected on the keyboard?

Larry

I couldn't figure out how to get the Peavey controller to work. Maybe I'll check out the Yammy.
DonM

How difficult is the MFC10 to program? Sounds pretty difficult. It would seem like Yamaha would provide information on how to program different events with their most popular products.

I'm worried about having to spend months learning about midi language before I can get this thing to work.

I'm still particularly interested in triggering the count-in intro.

Larry Levin

Larry,
It's not hard to use, it just takes a little reading in the owners manual. I don't think the count in intro is an option in what you can program. So far what I see is basically intro, ending, variation 1-4, fill in, start, stop, controller functions, program changes, tempo changes. Actual buttons on the keyboard aren't all accessible from the foot controller. If other functions can be programmed, I don't know how to access them yet.
George Kaye

Good to hear that the MFC10 can be easily setup & configured to trigger the PSR2000's 'basic arranger functions (listed on page 15 of MFC10 user's manual):

* Start/Stop
* Main A,B,C,D (which can include auto fill-in)
* Intro/ending

I didn't see any 'Multi Pads' included on the list on page 15 of the MFC10 owner's manual, so I assume that the ONLY way to get the MFC10 to recognize the four multi pads, would be only if you could somehow send the multi-pad SYSex message commands from the 2000 to the MFC10. George, from what I read from your posting, this is not easily possible because the MFC10 ONLY accepts midi SYSex information coming from midi channels 25 thru 28 via midi out-put port B. Hmmm. Here's a thought . . . I wonder if it would be possible to use a 'midi channel router' device to re-channel(?) the SysEX output out of the 2000's midi out from, say, midi channel 1 to: midi Channel 28, Port B. That way the MFC10 would recognize and receive it. This is beginning to sound complicated but I wonder if it would work? Thoughts from others?

To further my above discusssion about possible ways of getting the appropriate SysEx commands to the MFC10 for triggering the PSR2000's four 'multi-pads'. The PSR 9000 & 9000pro also have 'four' multi pads like the PSR2000, right? I was wondering if one could hook up the MFC10 to a borrowed PSR9000 or 9000pro and use the 9000 keyboard to send (via the 9000's unique midi feature: 'midi out to MFC10') all the appropriate SysEX information (including SysEx info to trigger the four multipads) to the MFC10. Then hook the MFC10 up to the PSR2000 and thus be able to trigger the PSR2000's multi-pads. hmmmm. Would that work?

Sounds very interesting. I don't think that would work, Scott. Sysex stands for system exclusive. So if you initially sent the message from a PSR 9000, then the first part of the message that the MFC10 would be triggering back to the PSR 2000 would be "message going to a Yamaha PSR 9000 keyboard." The PSR 2000 would have a different keyboard id, and would, I believe ignore the sysex message.

On the other hand, you could use a computer to trigger a sysex message. With Cakewalk, for example, you can send a sysex command over any channel you want, and perhaps you could program the pedal that way. I bet this would work, though I'm not sure.

I bet you could also use this to trigger the count-in intro feature.

Larry

Actually, I'm noticing that Cakewalk only transmits midi over 16 channels. Hmm ....

I'm not sure if Scott misunderstood my comments about midi channels 29-32. These are channels available on the "B" port of the PSR9000 and 9000Pro keyboards. Yamaha has told be that the configuration is such that the "A" port supports sequencing on channels 1-16, while the "B" port supports channels 17-28 for sequencing with the remaining 29-32 for "other" functions. This is where the MFC10 templates are stored and retreived. It was explained to me this way because I asked if it was possible to put templates into another operating system and the answer was probably not because of there only being the one set of midi plugs and the support of just 16 channels compared to the 32 on the Pro models.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California