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#122321 - 02/05/07 11:48 AM PSR-S500
ondo134 Offline
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Hi
I have question about this instrument. Have anybody played this new yamaha??? I want to ask you about polyphony because it isnt very good... I am thinking about psr-1500 too but it is more expensive and i think that S500 has better sounds and maybe better styles too... Can anybody help me???
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#122322 - 02/06/07 03:44 AM Re: PSR-S500
George V Offline
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Hi

Low polyphony is one of the major drawback of the Yamaha PSR S500.

As you are aware, the polyphony is 32. However, many of the voices use 2 polyphony per note, i e with some voices you can't play more than 16 notes simultaneously. Such voices are: All live! sweet! and cool! voices, as well as string and guitar voices, and more.

If you have played a DGX model you should know that PSR S500 polyphony issues are even worse.

I haven't played the instrument but I intend to, though I am not gonna buy it.

Regards,
George

[This message has been edited by George V (edited 02-06-2007).]

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#122323 - 02/06/07 05:36 AM Re: PSR-S500
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The PSR-S500 is an entry level instrument and priced accordingly.

The PSR-1500 is a much better equipped keyboard for a more advanced player, and it will be replaced in the fall by the PSR-S700.

Ian

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#122324 - 02/06/07 07:24 AM Re: PSR-S500
ondo134 Offline
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thank you guys
and what about style quality. Are styles more ,,live" on psr-1500 or on PSR-S500??? What do you think???

ondo

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#122325 - 02/06/07 07:44 AM Re: PSR-S500
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The PSR-S500 used mega voices in the style so they may sound a bit more realistic (subjective) but the PSR-1500 offers more Fingering modes including an ON BASS that allows the playing of slash chords.

It(the PSR-1500) also has a modulation wheel, a recorder that allows 16 tracks(as opposed to nine) and the ability to hold more custom styles.

It also has an organ drawbar mode and better effects.

It is a far more pro instrument IMO.

Ian





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#122326 - 02/06/07 12:13 PM Re: PSR-S500
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Played both.

(As I recall correct),1500 doesnt have live!(s500 have 2 ) piano sound,have less sweet/cool voices.Ac guitars are also better in s500.

s 500 has only phone/main out,1 sustain pedal in.NO multi pads.

1500 has all ins/outs like 3k(minus vox in and tv out).mod wheel.midi ports,exp pedal in,all are there.all functions like user style writing is in 1500.same efx and EQs like 3k(unlike older Yams like 1000,1100)

OS is better in 1500(like 3k).

sound wise s500 is a litter better(like a mini 3k).

too bad only pitch wheel in s500,and no multi pads(other stuff -you can live with it.)

If s700 is coming out,It'll have mod wheel and Live! grand,then you'll have a winner.

If s500 sells for $499 it'll smoke the competition.but for $700,a little high,still a good value.

can't wait for s900.(if it's true).

[This message has been edited by jamman (edited 02-06-2007).]

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#122327 - 02/06/07 12:38 PM Re: PSR-S500
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The PSR-S500 used mega voices in the style so they may sound a bit more realistic
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Ian, you sure about that? I don't recall seeing mega voices on the "voice list" for the S-500 (I could be wrong, but I don't recall seeing them). I think it has some voices like Dyno Steel, but Im pretty sure there are no "mega voices" listed. The only other arranger out there that I know of that is underneath the PSR-3000 and has mega voices is the Yamaha MM6. It has several mega voices--and yes it IS an arranger (before anyone else starts that up again)....

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 02-06-2007).]
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#122328 - 02/06/07 03:09 PM Re: PSR-S500
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Hi Squeak,

You are right...I stand corrected...there aren't any mega voices...just "Live", "Sweet" and "Cool".

And, yes the MM6 is an arranger...just a different approach.

BTW...I used to have a DJX Mark1...it was the bomb.

Ian



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#122329 - 02/06/07 03:33 PM Re: PSR-S500
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I had the original too. Man that little board was a beast! Hell I'd still put the original DJX up against the current arrangers out there for modern music.

Mine broke Partly my fault too. I had it for a few years and the Res. knob pulled off. I just dabbed the post slightly with superglue, and lets just say there was nothing SUPER about this superglue. It took forever to dry, and the glue ran down the post and superglued the Res. in the open position! Man I was pissed.
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#122330 - 02/07/07 05:19 AM Re: PSR-S500
ondo134 Offline
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Thanks for your reply
I want psr-s700 but i am afraid of price... so i am still watching for s500 or psr-1500...

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#122331 - 02/07/07 05:44 AM Re: PSR-S500
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If you're trying to decide between the S-500 and PSR-1500 I'd take the 1500 hands down. Granted it's a little more expensive, but you get quite a bit more with the PSR-1500. One obvious plus for the 1500 when compared to the S-500 is poly. The 1500 has more than twice the poly of the S-500 along with many other advantages.
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#122332 - 02/07/07 07:22 AM Re: PSR-S500
George V Offline
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Originally posted by ondo134:
Thanks for your reply
I want psr-s700 but i am afraid of price... so i am still watching for s500 or psr-1500...
Afraid of what? Nobody knows how expensive it will be. If I were you I'd wait until the Frankfurt Music Messe at the and of March when more info on s700 and s900 will be available.

Bear in mind that PSR 1500 is a 3-year-old piece of hardware. It's like buying a 3 year- old computer. And there is half a year until the release of its successor.

George

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#122333 - 02/10/07 12:03 AM Re: PSR-S500
ondo134 Offline
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I have another question.

Can I put some styles from Tyros 2 in psr-S500?? When yes how can i do this???

thanks

[This message has been edited by ondo134 (edited 02-09-2007).]

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#122334 - 02/10/07 08:22 AM Re: PSR-S500
George V Offline
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The answer is : Yes.

How to do this is described in the manual which you can download from http://www.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/result.php?model=PSR-S500

Basically, you plug in your USB stick and select USER STYLE category. Then you'll be able to choose from the styles on the USB stick.

Regards,
George

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#122335 - 02/10/07 01:07 PM Re: PSR-S500
ondo134 Offline
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And doesn´t tyros 2 styles need more polyphony??


thanks

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#122336 - 02/10/07 10:48 PM Re: PSR-S500
George V Offline
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The Tyros 2 has a different sound set which requires higher polyphony because there are mega voices and super articulation voices. Even if you get to run Tyros styles on the PSR-S500 you most probably will not be pleased with how they sound.

I suppose that the PSR-S500 already has a few styles from the Tyros which has already been optimized and use less polyphony.

You cannot expect wonders from an entry level keyboard. That's why they are entry level. If you like it you'll move to a mid level one and eventually to a top level keyboard.

My suggestion is to get the best keyboard you can with the money you have. You already know that there will be new keyboard announced next month.

So - the choice is yours.

Kind regards,
George

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