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#124805 - 09/05/07 05:30 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
Diki Offline


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Well, if you REALLY know anything, Donny....

Ask them what they are DROPPING. Maybe we can head them off at the pass before they make another colossal blunder...
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#124806 - 09/05/07 05:56 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Originally posted by Dnj:
It's Coming......
I'll never tell how I know


That's interesting, Donny...but is it a rumor you have heard or a fact?

Roland has used the basically the same chord recognition since the early E-series(early 90's)...it would be terrific if they would upgrade.

If they could just make the next G-series a lot lighter, shorten the keyboard to 61 keys, put some speakers in it, add a chord sequencer (come on Roland...I know you're listening)...I would get one for myself...it would be a great backup for my PSR-S900.

Ian
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#124807 - 09/05/07 05:59 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
it would be a great backup for my PSR-S900.Ian



Ian what didnt you understand about my post above ?

& btw didnt you mean "Replacement"

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#124808 - 09/05/07 06:04 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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They've ALREADY lightened up the G70, put some speakers in it, and shortened the keyboard to 61 notes (but sadly, no CS!)...
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It's called the E50, and yes, it would make a great COMPLIMENT to your S900...
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#124809 - 09/05/07 06:10 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Dnj:

Ian what didnt you understand about my post above ?

& btw didnt you mean "Replacement"



Sorry Donny, I didn't mean to question your integrity, but I am curious how you know so much.

No, my friend, I meant "backup"...my S900 will remain my main axe till the next mid range PSR is born...but it would still be nice to have a different brand keyboard to play around with.

Ian
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#124810 - 09/05/07 06:14 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by Dnj:
It's Coming......
I'll never tell how I know


Ok, which ONE, or BOTH of the below features are you referring to?:

1) Chord Sequencer
2) Rootless Jazz chord voicing recognition; like Yamaha, Korg, and Ketron now include

DNJ: Ok, now that you've now got both me and Diki salivating with your purported revelation. Do you truly verifiability KNOW this as a FACT from a key contact person (that you know?) who works for Roland, or is this mere speculation & conjecture? Come clean dude.

Scott
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#124811 - 09/05/07 06:30 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
They've ALREADY lightened up the G70, put some speakers in it, and shortened the keyboard to 61 notes (but sadly, no CS!)...>

It's called the E50, and yes, it would make a great COMPLIMENT to your S900...


You are telling me that the E50 is a 61 note G70 with speakers?

Gee, and all the while I thought the G70 was quite a lot more than the E-50 besides being heavier and having more keys.

Besides, the E-50 still uses the old chord recognition and that's a deal breaker for me...

Perhaps I should reiterate...give the new G-series a serious weight loss program, put in speakers, knock off those pesky extra keys AND give it a CS AND a proper chord recognition and it would surely be worthy of sitting next to my PSR-900.

Maybe Korg will come up with something interesting...

Ian
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#124812 - 09/06/07 04:10 AM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:

Ian what didnt you understand about my post above ?



Donny,

You have always made it clear on this forum that it bothers you when someone makes a claim that they cannot or will not back up.

Your usual response is, "put up or shut up".

Yet, here you are, doing the very same thing that you say you detest in others.

That's what I don't understand, my friend.

Ian
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#124813 - 09/06/07 11:51 AM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14230
Loc: NW Florida
Well, Ian, no, the E50 is no more a 61 note G70 than the S900 is a speaker version of the T2.

But it incorporates MANY of the sounds, and MOST of the features, rather like the S900.

You are prepared to make those compromises for a speaker and light weight on a Yamaha. Why not make them for a light weight, speaker-ed Roland (and you wouldn't have to make as much compromise on the action!)?

It still has that punchy 'in your face' sound the G70 has, and that's one of the main reasons anyone chooses the Roland's over Yamaha's...

Or is it only Yamaha's that you are prepared to make any compromise for...?

PS... 'Old system' on the Roland's? Do you actually use the 'rootless' jazz voicings, then, Ian? Other than this, what chording system is missing, on the Roland's?

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 09-06-2007).]
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#124814 - 09/06/07 12:25 PM Re: Yamaha Tyros2 1.30 OS Update Now Available
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Diki,

The E-50 is no where near the PSR-S900...no SA voices, no Mega voices, no rootless chord recognition(which I use...you obviously have no need of it)no Audio to USB...in fact the G70 has none of these features either.

IF Roland improves the breed enough to provide at least the equivalent of these features it would make it worth having one as a diversion.

As they are presently, it would be too much of a step backward to use one, even as a backup.

I hope the new G series has more to offer.

Ian
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