Wow, the ability to play Mp3's on the KN7000 is definitely a feature I miss on the Tyros. Thanks for listening.




Hi Ziggy Stardust , that's the nicest compliment one can receive. I must admit that I really miss having the Digitech Vocalist Workstation, which I sold to you when recording this song. I realize now that, for studio recording purposes, I need to purchase a dedicated vocal processor like the TC Helicon "VoiceWorks".

Scott

Hello Scott

Tks for sharing a nice song .
Tyros seems perfect and your fingers too !!!!
Congrats
Brasilian regards
Chico

WHAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Scott!!!!

Love it! How do you get that high and still stay in tune my friend???

The new DAW seems excellent, really good quality recording, crystal clear to my ears. Of course as always your performance cannot be faulted. As mentioned above I also had never heard this song before...... have been trying to sing it myself now but was accused by piglet of frightening the dog and sounding like a banshee When he heard your version he said..... "see that is why he can afford a Tyros and you can't!"

Your great talent has always been evident but the new gear sure does show it off well.
Brilliant song and brilliant performance
Best to you
Tony

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Great work Scott! I'm really glad you are into the D1200; they are great units. Now that you have a real understanding about why I MUCH prefer to record using my D1600 rather than Sonar you can see why I won't be updating to Sonar 3; I just don't need it and won't use it enough to justify that.

BTW, I don't even try to sync the D1600 and my keyboards. I use BIAB to give me a count in (I record on tracks 15 & 16 the 1,2, 1,2,3,4 that BIAB gives when it starts a song and then just use that the way a band would. I record the backing tracks, then the lead and then the vocal(s) and have no trouble getting everything together. After I have the backing tracks (arranger styles) and lead recorded, I erase tracks 15 & 16 to use for vocals, if needed.

Tom

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Tomat,


Can you share some BIAB tunes with us....Im curious as to what they sound like using that product?

Hi DNJ,

I don't use BIAB to record tunes, as such. I do use it to sometimes just drive my Pa80 and listen to it's styles + songs using the GM sounds. At this point, all I use it for is to record the count down that it does when it starts to play a style + song so that I have a starting point for recording my styles from the Pa80 and the leads either from the Pa80 or my Trinity V3.

You can get a trial download from www.pgmusic.com and then play a song using any style and you will see what I'm talking about; it gives a snare whack on a beat of 1..,2.., 1,2,3,4 just like a band leader will call out in a live band when starting a song. This allows me to "sync" up recording "by ear". Also, since I'm not trying to print out any scores, I don't even bother with what the tempo is set to on the recorder and just record in real time. The D1600 simply faithfully records whatever I put in it and as long as I'm not trying to print out music, measures and beats are irrelevant. In fact, if you are ever in a situation where some recording equipment is measure limited (say 999 measures max) and you want to "lengthen" the time you have to record, just set the machine tempo as low as the machine will go, say 40 bpm and record in real time and the measures will stretch out and you will get twice as long a time to record the same number of measures as you will at 80 bpm. My paying gig is as principal organist at the local Catholic Church and I have to do that sometimes. We have a state of the art Rodgers 2 manual organ with midi and sequencer but the sequencer is measure limited at 999 measures, so if I need an hours worth of meditation music the only way I can get it is to "fool" the idiot machine into giving me more time by setting it to 40 bpm and then playing in real time, which is usually between 80 and 90 bpm. That is the only way I can get one hour of continuous music on a floppy so that if I'm sick or absent for some reason, they can just put the floppy in the midi box and have the organ play the hour of meditation music. So far, I have not needed to have anyone use that feature! (And, hopefully, I never will!!!!!)

Tom

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Tomcat,

Thanx, for the info on BIAB....
I tried it years ago but was turned off by having to insert the chords into the tunes versus just playing real time when I record. But I can see the significance in a program like BIAB for certain users to create music.



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Hi Chico, glad you enjoyed it. I also plan to record & post a Latin number soon.



Glad you liked the song Tony. I find it easy to 'get high' , but staying in tune is another thing. Actually I'm pretty aware that my falsetto voice could use a lot of work, as honestly, I never worked on this type of singing before.



Thanks Tom. I really owe you a big dose of gratitude for both steering me in the direction of Korg DAW recorders (both terrific sounding & user friendly & at a great price) as well as re-ferring me to the excellent KorgStudios forum and the wonderfully friendly folks there.




Ahh, I think I understand your workable method of recording to the Digital Recorder the BIAB count in measures, but I'd prefer to keep the keyboard's midi sequencer's backing tracks in the midi domain all the way until the very end of the project, which allows me to mix/edit the separate midi tracks & midi data throughout the production process, because once the midi sequence is recorded to audio, it can't be tweaked or remixed, unless you re-record the entire midi sequence to the recorder all over again.

Thanks again for everyone's interest & support.

Scott

Hi Scott,

I don't use midi at all, ever. I have my two keyboards (a Pa80 and a Trinity V3) connected to two inputs, each, on the D1600 and then I have the mic on another input so that I'm using a total of 5 wired up inputs on the D1600. I then set up the Pa80 for the style I want to use and make any instrument subsitutions and/or volume changes, etc. so that the style is the way I want it. Then I record the count in and then play, in real time, the chords, comping through the song using two tracks on the D1600. Then I come back and lay down the lead line, usually on two tracks also. If the lead I'm using is on the Trinity, then I play it and the style at the same time and record on four tracks at once. I do it this way simply to get adjustability between the "band" and the "lead". Then last, I come back and record the vocals, using about eight tracks individually so that I can 1) have enough to be sure of getting a good one, or 2) have enough that I can cut and paste to get a good one (don't like doing that very much because it is labor intensive and I'd rather have it all in one go) or 3) have a good male chorus sound if I use them all at the same time. I have an album of gospel songs I did for friends and family where I discovered, accidentally, about the choir effect from using all eight tracks for the vocal. It just happened to turn out that I sang them close enough to the same way on all eight tracks that I could mix them together and get a really full sound.

By working this way I have minimum hassle. I just turn on the D1600, the keyboards and the mic and then arm whatever tracks I'm going to use and get on with it. However, I do practice the song so that I can play it without making many, if any, mistakes and don't have to do a lot of re-recording so I don't actually need a sequenced midi track. Rather than record the drums to one midi track, the bass to another, etc. so I can adjust volume and so on, I do all that in the setup of the style before I start recording so I don't need to spread the tracks out across a sequencer. I also record with NO effects other than what is naturally on the keyboard sounds; I save the compression etc. for the editing/mastering phase which I do on my laptop using Sound Forge 7, sometimes Wavelab 4, sometimes T-rackS 24 and then burn to CD from the laptop. Those programs are MUCH better for editing/mastering than Sonar will ever be.

Anyway, that's just the way I personally choose to go about doing this. It is, after all, my hobby. I'm retired (& 69) and my paying gig is as principal organist and music minister at the local catholic church where I have a current state of the art two manual Rodgers organ with midi to play.

Tom

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Hi Tom. Thanks for your terrific detailed description of your recording method. I would really 'love' to hear your music recorded on the D1600. I would especially love to hear your music performed on your church's Rogers Organ.

btw: Notice you live on the coast of Oregon in Lincoln City. Beautiful scenic area.

Scott