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#128091 - 06/10/03 07:46 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
Scott Langholff Online   content
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi Gary

I don't think we can import any sounds to the PSR2000 can we?

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#128092 - 06/10/03 08:03 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
George,
I hate to bring this up again, but, if you get time, would you please check out the vocal harmony for Karaoke Girl and Squeaky Mouse to see if they work properly. As you may recall, they did not remove the lead voice from these settings on the PSR2000.
Many thanks!
DonM
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#128093 - 06/10/03 09:32 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Hi Scott,

I believe that most of the tyros voices, other than those specialty voices, can be inported into the 2000's user area. I guess we'll find out in the next few weeks. I have tried some of the new styles and they sound pretty good.

Cheers,

Gary
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#128094 - 06/10/03 09:33 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
Joe Waters Offline
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Registered: 01/08/01
Posts: 225
Loc: Sterling, VA USA
Terrific review, Geoge. I've added it to the psrtutorial site along with some photos. I will have my 2000 for awhile after getting the 2100 so I may be able to make more of the side-by-side comparisons (although it will be hard to break away from just playing the new beauty!)

As to "moving" the voices, Scott, I suspect that will be impossible. When you modify a voice now, on the 2000, you are basically changing some of the sound parameters that are applied to the internal voice. That "modified" voice file can be saved (it can even be saved directly in a OTS setting) and it isn't very big because the only thing actually saved is the parameter changes to the voice. As I worked on converting the Tyros styles, I noticed that almost all of the MAIN/LAYER voices in the OTS had to be reset to the 2000 equivalents. That's because any changes that may have been in there to optimize the sound on the Tyros were using the internal voices in the Tyros as the starting point. Starting with the internal voice in the 2000 and applying the same modifications did not produce the desired result.

It will be interesting to see how well some of these settings from the Tyros will sound when played on the 2100. The original Tyros OTS voices may be fine on the new 2100. Your description of the Harmonica particularly brought this home. Yamaha seemed to use the Harmonica in a lot of the OTS settings in the Tyros styles but that voice is not all that impressive on the 2000. In converting the styles to the 2000, I usually replaced the harmonica with something else. The harmonica may, however, be one of the favored solo voices on the new 2100. It will be interesting to see how this all works out.
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#128095 - 06/10/03 10:29 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Loc: Reseda, California USA
From what I saw yesterday all the PSR2000 styles are still in the PSR2100. There are just the new styles added as more styles.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#128096 - 06/10/03 10:34 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi George

Sorry for the barrage of questions (I just looked at what I posted), but I know you realize we are all kind of anxious to know as much as we can. We're still all kind of like little kids when it comes to our adult toys and gizmo's.

Scott

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#128097 - 06/11/03 04:56 AM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
royandreno Offline
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Registered: 03/15/02
Posts: 451
Loc: Sandnes, Norway
George, great review!
You're just confirming what I said earlier: The Best.
If I lived in the States I'd be your customer.
After some of the threads lately, we needed this (and the Genesys Pro!)

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Roy-Andrč
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#128098 - 06/11/03 10:44 AM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
Artaher Offline
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Registered: 12/04/01
Posts: 143
Loc: Madrid, Spain
Thanks, George, for your great review.

You don't refer to PSR2100 keys, and its feeling. Are exactly same keys and same feeling than PSR2000? Or is it better (I would like it)?
New PSR has "live" grand piano voice. You refer a more natural sounding in the upper octaves... but, only in the upper ones? So, do you think this new voice only improve old "piano voice" in upper octaves and not globaly, all around the keyboard? Do you think this new voice will sound similar to Tyros live grand piano voice (both on similar external amplifier and loudspeakers, of course).
PSR1100 hasn't "live" grand piano voice... Is it ok?
Cheers

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#128099 - 06/11/03 01:42 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
Does anyone know whether a survival kit is being offered with this keyboard, one that comes with an extended warranty offer?

Thanks,

Beakybird

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#128100 - 06/11/03 02:26 PM Re: Yamaha PSR2100 Review
royandreno Offline
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Registered: 03/15/02
Posts: 451
Loc: Sandnes, Norway
Yes,
it comes with a mirror for selfindulgance, some spare keys for locked doors and closed clubs and some matches to do the Hendrix stunt after the show. Yeah, and not to forget the lifevest after the guests have thrown you and your PSR in the pool.

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Roy-Andrč
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