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#128295 - 10/06/03 02:03 AM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
MacAllcock Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
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Loc: Preston, Lancashire, England
Just to drag us back to the original subject, I rarely change EQ much other than to adjust the volume of the bass amp but tend to need to adjust reverb mix for different venues.
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#128296 - 10/06/03 07:04 AM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Hi Scott, This past New Year I used my Eon 10's on stands on iether side of me, and one Eon G2 15' behind me as far as I could.
The Eon G2 was adjusted to heavy bass and very little treble.

The Eon G2 added enough bottom, and suported the mid's and high's---I am still inyerested in a woofer!
Chers, John C.

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#128297 - 10/06/03 07:15 AM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
The Pro Offline
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Registered: 07/09/02
Posts: 1087
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
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Originally posted by Scott Langholff:

The Pro: Since I have two JBL EON 10G2's I was particularly interested in your answer. Isn't the sound and volumeyou get with those Eons essentially the same as the Motion Sound?

Scott Langholff


Scott: To answer your question, no - but that needs explaining. I found that to get the most out of the EON's requires a preamp, like a mixer. I don't normally use a mixer though... mostly I just plug the 9000 Pro straight into the EON inputs when I use them - so I use the EON's primarily for soft-volume-gigs where I know space will be tight. I recently used them in a dinner club where my back was to the wall, which would not work well for the KP-200s, so I put an EON on either side of me on the floor and tilted towards me for a nice low-volume sound.

On paper the EON's should put out more volume than the KP-200s and they might if I used a mixer/preamp with them. But the KP-200s is a beast and has the added benefit of the spatial enhancer which spreads the sound field out. Also the overall cabinet space of the KP-200s seems larger than the combined EON's IMHO and that may give the KP-200s more perceived power. Whatever it is, the KP-200s seems louder and punchier than the EON's to me, but that's subjective and probably depends on how both systems are actually used.

The coolest aspect for me is that my system is scalable:

Lo-power: (2) EON 10's
Medium: KP-200s
High: KP-200s + (2) EON 10's + (2) EON Subs

and in the high-power situation the KP-200s would act as both the stage monitor and the mixer/preamp to give the EON's the signal strength to get the maximum performance out of them. Also I can get a quasi-surround-sound effect by using the high-power option.
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#128298 - 10/06/03 08:56 AM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
Idatrod Offline
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Registered: 07/23/02
Posts: 562
Loc: Oceanside, CA USA
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Originally posted by Scott Langholff:
Hi Mike

Just curious. How much did Guitar Center want for the case?

Best

Scott Langholff



They want $99 for the KKP9.

Musiciansfriend.com which is their affiliate is asking $119 for the KKP9.

Best regards,
Mike

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#128299 - 10/06/03 10:49 AM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi The Pro

So the mixer is giving a boost in power that the Yamaha onboard mixer won't deliver?

Should I decide to go that route for that reason I presume one of those Behringer mixers at or under $100 should do the same thing?

Thanx
Scott Langholff

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#128300 - 10/06/03 11:42 AM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
GlennT Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
Posts: 1790
Loc: Medina, OH, USA
Scott...

I'm sensing a little bit of frustration... too many choices! Anybody else here remember the good old days when the only sound choice was good sound or bad sound? And if you wanted good sound you looked no further than the Shure VocalMaster!

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#128301 - 10/06/03 01:45 PM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi Glenn

I remember the days when I played a Hammond M3 (spinet version of B3) and at first used a Leslie, and later used a Fender Bass amp. Of course in those days an organist or keyboard player pretty much used a bass amp. Before the keyboard amps came out. As far as the PA, that was the other guys job, I didn't want to mess with all those knobs. haha.

I used a Rotoverb Leslie simulator which sounded great. Still have it as a matter of fact. Hmmmm, come to think of it I think I'll sell it.

Best
Scott Langholff

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#128302 - 10/06/03 06:45 PM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi Mike

Mike quote:[They want $99 for the KKP9.

Musiciansfriend.com which is their affiliate is asking $119 for the KKP9.]

Says alot about Musiciansfriend free shipping? haha.

Best
Scott Langholff

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#128303 - 10/07/03 11:31 AM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
The Pro Offline
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Registered: 07/09/02
Posts: 1087
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Quote:
Originally posted by Scott Langholff:
Hi The Pro

So the mixer is giving a boost in power that the Yamaha onboard mixer won't deliver?

Should I decide to go that route for that reason I presume one of those Behringer mixers at or under $100 should do the same thing?

Thanx
Scott Langholff



Yes to both questions.
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#128304 - 10/07/03 12:12 PM Re: EQ: How much do you need to change it at all from place to place?
danb Offline
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Registered: 12/28/98
Posts: 306
Since you guys are talking abpout case. How can you compare this case made by Pro Tec to one made by Kaces? I'm also shopping for a case.

Dan


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