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#129089 - 09/30/04 05:02 PM
Re: Regret my PSR 3000 purchase...
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by digitalvision: is actually anything NEW with arranger keyboards? More of this, more of that doesn't mean new.. Digitalvision, I realize you weren't addressing me directly, but, for what it's worth, imo, in addition to this new feature or that, the improved QUALITY (over the last 5 year) of both sound samples as well as styles (seemingly less canned sounding) have improved not just a little, but significantly, making it worth (at least imho) an upgrade investment to a current arranger keyboard. - Scott
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#129090 - 09/30/04 08:17 PM
Re: Regret my PSR 3000 purchase...
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15575
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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DigitalVision, I wholeheartedly agree with Scott. Today's aranger keyboards are light years ahead of where they were just five years ago. The PSR-740 was a gigantic advancement over the PSR-500, the when the 2000 came out, it only took performers a few minutes of exploring the board's attributes to make the decission to upgrade. The PSR-3000 and Tyros have made huge strides in advancing the quality of sampling, plus provided users with one of the must user friendly operating systems available today. That, combined with USB, HD and SM storage, instant access, increible numbers of excellent third party style files, plus relatively low cost made Yamaha the front-runner, IMO, when it comes to which keyboard to purchase. When I hear individuals talk about poor quality in construction, those statements usually come from those who do not perform on a regular basis at a number of different locations. When you must set up and tear down 4 to 8 times weekly, week after week, month after month and year round, lugging a 55-pound keyboard around in an equally heavy hard case just doesn't make good sense. The same holds true for PA systems, and all the other associated equipment that performing OMB entertainers use in order to be competitive and successful. I'll stick with the so-called cheesy keys, lightweight plastic housing, aluminum speaker stands, 36.5-pound powered speakers, and load it all on my Rock-N-Roller. Every time I load and unload the cart and van my back says THANK YOU! Advances in arranger keyboards--YOU BET--and lots of them. Gary
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#129091 - 09/30/04 09:22 PM
Re: Regret my PSR 3000 purchase...
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Originally posted by digitalvision: THERE IS NOTHING NEW IN THE ARRANGER SCENE Oh, you are SO wrong about that. Listen to the drum dounds for starters, then look at the USB connections and Smart Media cards, the dual sequencers on Korg PA series, the ability to "morph" styles on Rolands VA series. The MP3 playback on the Gem Genesis and Korg PA1x! ( and CDRs too ! ) The SD1 and the Tyros/3k let you mix a style in real time with a sequence, and the Yamaha even lets you add the whole arranger to a sequence while it's playing ! ( not that it's a good thing, but cool anyway ) There are MANY, MANY added features and improvements made since the psr8000, and they are very easy to appreciate. You gotta play them all to see what's new. That's why I change so often .... BECAUSE of the new stuff. If nothing was added, I wouldn't need the new gear. Take a closer look and really listen too. There's LOTS of brand new features and sounds to love.
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#129093 - 10/01/04 04:47 AM
Re: Regret my PSR 3000 purchase...
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Registered: 06/19/00
Posts: 83
Loc: UK
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There were a couple of justified replies there, but as a whole, no one has addressed the main point in that there's nothing NEW in the arranger scene and really, no one came up with a valued argument.
Most of the features mentioned above, are throw me downs from workstations. And I guess my point AGAIN is, put arranger features into a workstation. Obviously there is still a market for toy keyboards like the PSR1500, PA50 etc. These would be better left as 'arrangers', while workstations should appeal to the high end of a SINGLE high-end pro synth/arranger user market.
One other main point raised above is the so called improved quality of sounds. It just goes to show you how 'bad' the sounds were in the first place.
Am I understanding this right, that everyone is telling me here that they WOULDN'T LIKE TO HAVE A MOTIF AND TYROS AS ONE, OR A TRITON AND 1X, G70 AND FANTOM?
[This message has been edited by digitalvision (edited 10-01-2004).]
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