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#130930 - 07/12/06 12:34 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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#130931 - 07/12/06 12:36 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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ZIDANE-ERKLÄRUNG

"Harte Worte gegen meine Mutter und Schwester"

Zinedine Zidane hat sich zum ersten Mal zu seinem Kopfstoß im WM-Finale geäußert. Demnach habe Italiens Verteidiger Marco Materazzi die Mutter und Schwester des 34-jährigen Franzosen beleidigt. Zidane entschuldigte sich für seinen Aussetzer, bedauert diesen aber nicht.

(from www.spiegel.de )
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#130932 - 07/12/06 12:38 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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Sure, insults happen all the time on the field. but there are some that can be let go and others that require actions.

What Zidane did was unexcusable because it's not who he really is. But what about all those FIFA regulations about racism ???

Fifa is so screwed up that they only punish what they see and not what they hear.

None of the referees saw what happened and had to use the fourth referee that saw it on a screen. Yet, they don't want to use replays to determine whether a goal was valid or a penalty was justified or not.

So in the future, you can call black people in any team anything you want, or asian people names and get away with it ???

I'd say it's wrong what Zidane did but he might also have figured that no one would punish the italian for making racist comments (if that was indeed the case)... so he'd have to take action himself.

Honor is more important than winning.

[This message has been edited by wizboy (edited 07-12-2006).]

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#130933 - 07/12/06 12:42 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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Zidane makes apology for headbutt

Zidane has spoken about his sending-off for the first time

Zinedine Zidane has apologised for the headbutt on Italy's Marco Materazzi which earned him a red card in Sunday's World Cup final penalty shoot-out loss.

The France legend did not reveal what Materazzi said, but claimed it was "very personal" and concerned his mother and his sister.

"I want to ask for forgiveness from all the children who watched," Zidane said.

Materazzi responded to the French TV interview with a statement again denying insulting Zidane's mother.

Italian defender Materazzi, who scored the equaliser on Sunday, said: "I didn't mention anything about religion, politics or racism.

"I didn't insult his mother. I lost my mother when I was 15 years old and still get emotional when I talk about it.

"Naturally, I didn't know that his mother was in hospital but I wish her all the best.

"Zidane is my hero and I have always admired him a lot."

Zidane was sent off for headbutting Materazzi in the chest in the second period of extra-time in the final in Berlin.

He appeared on French TV station Canal Plus to explain his actions.

Zidane refused to say sorry to Materazzi and said he did not regret what he did after being provoked by the insults.

But Zidane, who was playing in his final game before quitting football, added: "They were very hard words. You hear them once and you try to move away.

"But then you hear them twice, and then a third time.

"Before anything else I am a man and some words are harder to hear than actions. I would rather have taken a blow to the face than hear that

I can't regret what I did because it would mean that he (Materazzi) was right to say what he said

"I want to apologise," he said. "But I can't regret it because if do that would be like admitting that he had every reason to say what he said. I can't do that because he was not right to say what he said."

Zidane also called for Materazzi to be punished for his provocations.

Since the incident, rumours have run rife about what Materazzi said to get such a reaction from the Frenchman.

There were claims the Italian had called Zidane a "terrorist", but in Tuesday's edition of the Italian newspaper La Gazetta dello Sport, Materazzi said: "It was the kind of insult you will hear dozens of times and just slips out of the ground.

"I didn't call Zidane a terrorist and certainly didn't mention his mother.

"I did not bring up Zidane's mother; for me a mother is sacred."

Zidane, who was born and grew up in Marseille, is the son of Algerian immigrants and has suffered taunts about his heritage throughout his football career.

Zinedine Zidane was shown the red card during the World Cup final
Zidane was shown the red card during the World Cup final

The two players initially clashed in the Italian penalty area before words were exchanged.

Materazzi said: "I held his shirt, for only a few seconds.

"He turned towards me and scoffed at me, looking at me with super arrogance, up and down.

"He said 'if you really want my shirt, you can have it later.' It's true, I shot back with an insult."

Fifa is to investigate Zidane's sending-off while Fifa president Sepp Blatter has hinted the France star could be stripped of his World Cup best player award.

(from www.bbc.co.uk )
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#130934 - 07/12/06 12:46 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5778880

Same interview reported by a different source; there is also a video online, if someone is interested. You can hear Zidane speaking in french.
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#130935 - 07/12/06 12:53 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
[BAnd, speaking of insults, they say that he said something about Zidane's sister... so what? A real pro -like Zidane was supposed to be- would have settled the thing after the match, and not on the field, in front of one billion five hundred million people watching the match, leaving his team in a situation of disadvantage.

[This message has been edited by Dreamer (edited 07-12-2006).][/B]


According to rumors on Google,italian player told Zidane like this("You fuc*ing muslim terrorist!,you'll never win the game").Zidane who is an Algerian muslim(but french citizen)got mad and hit the italian player.


[This message has been edited by jamman (edited 07-12-2006).]

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#130936 - 07/12/06 12:55 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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Please, read the text of the interview with Zidane himself and don't go after "rumors" on the net.
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#130937 - 07/12/06 12:57 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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http://videos.tf1.fr/video/?trk=1&e=3

Video of the interview with Zidane (spoken in french)
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#130938 - 07/12/06 01:04 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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I still see Materazzi as a coward and a disgrace of Italian Football. It's too easy not to take responsibilities for your actions.

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#130939 - 07/12/06 01:07 PM Re: ITALIA !!!!!
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FIFA World Rankings July 2006

After World Cup 2006 Brazil remain top, followed by Italy, Argentina and France. England rise to 5th with Portugal in 8th.

1 Brazil
2 Italy
3 Argentina
4 France
5 England
6 The Netherlands
7 Spain
8 Portugal
9 Germany
10 Czech Republic

11 Nigeria
11 Cameroon
13 Switzerland
14 Uruguay
15 Ukraine
16 USA
17 Denmark
18 Mexico
19 Paraguay
20 Côte d'Ivoire

I tend to agree with this ranking and think that Brazil is, overall, a better team than Italy; yet, they lost to France and maybe would loose to Italy too, because the Brazil we saw in the World Cup lacked the determination required to win.
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