Things that make you go hmmmmmmm?
My new 2000 replacement is STLL the old version 1.03, and yet - it does NOT have the many bugs and quirks that my first unit had.
Things that SHOULD be remembered:
1)split point
2)choice of vocal harmony
3)DSP effects & levels
4)harmony trigger section (eg: LEFT / CHORD)
5)sustain settings for left&right hand parts

These things did not work on the first one, but DO work on the replecement. I wonder what the new O/S will bring to the table?

One of the most important things to me would be remembering the intro/ending preferences in registration memory. Scott says his will do that, but mine definitely will not.
It is a nuisance to have to manually select the intro and/or ending every time you change styles. The alternative is to save the style to disk with the proper selections made.
DonM

Even saving selected intro/endings to disc is apparently somewhat limited. For instance, say you want to create two Registrations for two songs using the same style, but different intros and endings for each. No Can Do. At least I haven't been able to. Whatever intro/ending you save for the first song will forever be the default on any song using that particular style.

Maybe saving the two songs to different discs would be the solution...but changing discs or punching in intro/endings takes about the same time.

Eddie

Don & Eddie,

My 2000's ROM version is Main Boot: 1.03
& Main Proram: 1.00 (same as yours?), but my KB allows me to save any specified Intro/Ending to Registration Memory. In fact, I can save Intro1 to RegBut 1, Intro2 to RegBut 2, etc. This allows me to use different Intros as breaks during the middle of a song.

This is obviously pointing out (as per Uncle Dave's observations as well) that even though we may have the SAME OS version displayed on our KBs, that we actually each have varying degrees of feature enhancements added/missing from our specific boards. Strange.

My PSR2000's Registration Memory, though it stores the Vocal Harmonizer on/off status and vocal harmony type selection, does NOT store the Mic settings.

Scott

Scott, I'm not talking about storing the intro or ending itself. I want the registration to call up, in most cases, intro/ending number 1 to work when I press the intro or ending key, without having to go to the diplay to select it each time.
Are you able to do this? If so, maybe there is hope!
My mic settings are not stored either, just the effects and harmony settings, as your does. Actually, I like it that way.
Unfortunately, the "fix" that Yamaha sent for the Vocal Harmony (mouse and k. girl) settings is unusable, because, while you can store the edited harmony setting, you can't store the mic setting to match it, so, whether they will admit it or not, the vocal harmony bug exists, and they haven't found a workable work-around for it yet.
DonM

Absolutely YES ! I guess there's HOPE for U.



I actully PREFER it this way too , because I frequently need to tweek mic EQ settings on the fly (to meet varying stage venue situations). If the actual mic EQ settings were saved in Registration Memory, it would NOT be realisticly possible to tweek/change mic EQ levels while performing as it would automatically revert back what is saved in Reg Memory settings the minute another registration memory button was selected.

It might be nice if Yamaha could create a new Registration Memory Contents category specificly for saving Mic EQ & efx settings though. This way you could optionally save the Mic/efx settings and then freeze (override) just these settings if you like.
Just a thought. - Scott

Scott...
Not being able to save the mic setting is no big deal to me. And, yes, I have the same OS as you. But, are you saying there is a way to save the intro/ending of your choice to each registration you create? I have not been able to uncover that secret.

I am unclear on Don's question. Don, are you wanting to save an intro/ending to your styles internally... or on disc?
Eddie

hallo Donm and all forum members.
I readed the postings about the intro and ending settings and it is possible to save intro 1 to mem 1 intro 2 to mem 2 ect and same with the ending. You must save the intro 1 2 or 3 in any registermem and then do the same with the ending it is not possible to save intro and ending in 1 registermemory you have to use 2 registers to store the intro and the ending settings this way you can make a combination of it .

I can save speedy mouse settings with the mic settings to the user setting. I changed the settings like yamaha told us and then save it. I turned the board of and then on and loaded speedy mouse from the user mem and all setting are ok now. Greettings Roland From holland psr 2000 ver.1.20

Bsharp & DonM,

Saving different intros to any given style in different 'Registration Memory' buttons is NOT a problem for me whatsoever.

If you also want the specific intro to begin when the associated Reg Memory button is pressed you must not only select the appropriate intro/ending in the LCD screen, but also activate the intro button (red light on) while saving (pressing the Memory button & a 1-8 Reg Memory button).

Also (before saving), be sure that the Memory Contents 'style' parameter is checked as well. Also double check that the freeze button is OFF. If you are still having problems, let me know and I can send you a Registration file which has different intro/ending settings saved in different individual reg memorys 1-8. Good luck. - Scott

[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 03-20-2002).]

Don,
I have a 1.0 version as my store demo and I want to make sure I understand you.
I have edited my speedy mouse and bass (low bass voice) and adjusted the balance as described in the Yamaha directions you posted and then saved these at different registration memories and when I recall them, they work perfectly. The balance and the user vocal memories are recalled with the push of one button. Is this what you can't do?
I've read so many different posts about what works and doesn't that I've become confused.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

Hi Bambino,

Can you (or anybody else here) please provide all the detailed settings (given by Yamaha) to make Speedy Mouse & Karaoke Girl work properly (without it also including my voice too)? THANKS. - Scott

Speedy Mouse Effect per Yamaha. I just tried it... worked for me. Eddie

To Hear Effect Only (no Lead) in 'Speedy Mouse' (Example):
1) Press the [VH TYPE SELECT] button.
2) Select the Vocal Harmony Type, 'SpdyMouse'.
3) Press the '8' [^] 'EDIT' toggle button to display the 'VOCAL HARMONY EDIT' page in the
screen.
4) Make the following changes:
HARM GENDER TYPE: AUTO
LEAD GENDER TYPE: OFF
LEAD GENDER DEPTH: -64
UPPER GNDR DEPTH: +63
LOWER GNDR DEPTH: +63
Saving the Edited Effect:
1) Press the [I] 'SAVE' button.
2) Rename the effect, if desired.
3) Press the '8' [^] 'OK' button.

Balance Setting:
1) Press the [MIC. SETTING] button.
2) Press the [J] button to select 'VOCAL HARMONY CONTROL'.
3) Use the '4' [v] toggle button to select 'LPSR2000 Owner's Manual, p. 130-132

OK Guys !

I think there definitely IS something FLAKY going on with the intro/ending saving to Reg Memory issue. I tried re-testing this about 15 minutes ago and it worked fine. I was able to easily save different intros to different memory reg buttons, but then tried AGAIN now, and this time it DOESN"T work. VERY STRANGE

All I do know is that I have saved many custom Registrations with different intros and endings than the style's default (for my show songs) and it's always worked before, so to discover this flakey situation is most troubling.

Scott

Scott...
We are on the same page re: intro/endings in registrations. Seems to work sometimes...but not always.

The Yamaha instructions I posted are for those times you only want SpdyMouse. It deletes your voice. The regular default SpdyMouse does not delete your voice. So, if you want both, better name the new one something other than SpdyMouse.

Geeez DonM...look what you started.

Eddie

Hi Scott,
Would you please check your latest thread and please help if you can, many thanks.
jedi

Hi Jedi,
Can you please be more SPECIFIC? I'll be glad to help (if I can), but there are so many postings on this thread that I'm a bit confused WHICH one you are referring to. Thanks. - Scott

Hi Scott
The thread I meant to say your latest post
sorry
jedi

Jedi,

I think Bsharp and I both confirm that saving intros/ending to Registration Memory is flaky (sometimes works and sometimes doesn't), though I've only begun experiencing problems doing this starting today.

I'll be glad to try my best to answer any specific questions you may have regarding this.

For saving the intro settings and also the ending the light of the intro button or ending button must be on else it will not save the settings to the register mem.
The display wil not show the settings for the different intro or endings it stays always on intro 3 and endings 3 but the saved settings wil work fine.

Hi Scott
Would you please try this, do that test thing and after it done press C-1. On mine it goes to 7? then I found that if you use tempo - (down) until you get to 1 with an * then what? many , many thanks to all that have helped me tonight
jedi

Just got in from the job and read all these posts. I will try saving the intros and endings again tomorrow, but so far I haven't been able to get it to work even once.
I tried it again earlier tonight, but will double check all settings and procedures again tomorrow.
I'm about ready to turn the Speedy Mouse loose in the same room with the Karaoke Girl and seen what Ending they come up with.
DonM

Hi,

About save Intro and Ending make this:

- At the Main Menu press E.
- Press Buttons D and E and choose intended Intro and Ending.
- Press the Main intended style section A, B , C or D we intend the style play after the Intro.
- Press the Intro button; the Led will lit.
- At this point store this settings in a Registration button eg: button 1.
- Press the Ending button; the Led will lit.
- At this point Store this settings in another Registration button eg: button 2.
It's all. From now, when we call the fist registration the choosen Intro will be called. Play the song as usual. When we intend to finish the song with the choosen Ending press the second Registration. The song will stop with the intended Ending.

Carlos Rodrigues

Too much work. It's easier to deal with selecting the desired intro/ending each time, rather than utilizing a new registration for each setting. Registrations are supposed to make life easier, so until this thing works the way it's SUPPOSED to, I can't waste time writing regisatrations that I will never need to use later on. That's just counter-productive. I'll play it as-is, and when the update fixes everything .... if I'm still happy with it ( big IF ) then I'll begin to "customize" it with a few specific registrations and such.

I was talking to Panama Jack yesterday. I had a job right near his house, so I popped in and wrote a few registrations on his 2000. He's got the same version as me, and Sam Ash has ordered him a new one, to try and get the newer version.
I'd like to thank everyone that called him and offered their help so far. I mentioned before, he's blind and it's tough navigationg these new keyboards without a guiding hand. So, thanx again to everyone who has joined the crusade to give him a hand. Once again, this forum has gone the extra mile to help a friend. Makes me proud!
(Great idea - sending an MP3 of some of the text in the manual ! Brilliant !!)