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#135908 - 05/31/02 05:39 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Hi Donny,
Unfortunately, I just discovered that the 'Music Finder Editor' program by Fabien doesn't support the PSR9000 or 9000pro, and the one that I'm familiar with, MusicFinder View, by Michael Bedesem, does NOT allow you to actually edit the data on your computer, only sort and print it. Perhaps the one that Grahams is referring to(MusicDataBaseEditor) and supported on the PSR9000 & 9000pro will allow you to enter & edit music finder data as well. Hopefully Graham can clarify this. - Scott
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#135909 - 05/31/02 10:34 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
TomTomSF Offline
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Registered: 03/24/99
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Hi Scott
I have had a ball checking out the Music Finder Database. I haven't done any customizing, really. But this feature is so cool right out of the box. It's amazing how many songs there are in there. It makes choosing styles a cinch.

I would love to check out your MFD file. I think a lot of your repetoire would be just what I like to play as well. Maybe you could email it to me?
Tom G.
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#135910 - 06/01/02 12:35 AM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
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Hi Tom,
To be honest, my intent here was to 'TRADE' (swap) Music Finder files with others who have created a custom 'music finder' database representative of 'their' song repetoire as well. The purpose was to encourage other PSR keyboard players to enter their song repetoire list into their Music Finder, and then 'swap'. Tom, I'd be happy to swap with you after you enter, say at least 30 songs (with selected style & tempo), not already included in the PSR2000's factory music finder databaase. In the meatime, you're welcome to take a peak at my 2000's 'on screen' music finder listing at our upcoming get together.

Btw, just in case some of you guys may have missed the earlier annoucement, several Synthzone forum members who live in the SF bay area (8 of us), and including a couple of others who are visiting from out of the Country (Andrea (Dreamer) Rotolo & Chuck Piper), will be meeting together for the first time. We're first meeting for lunch at a terrific restaurant overlooking the SF Bay and then coming to my place to play music. Several people will be bringing their arrangers keyboards, so this looks to be a fun time. Is anyone interested in organizing a first Synthzone convention (in a larger venue) so more people can be included? Any favorite City (vacation destination) where you guys think the 1st Synthzone arranger keyboard convention should be held in? I'm always looking for an excuse to visit another city. - Scott
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#135911 - 06/02/02 12:33 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
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Hi All,

I just wanted to post a followup about the 'Music Finder' database. In addition to storing the songs title, style, tempo, OTS settings, and music 'genre' category, you can also use the 'keywords field' to store other important information like song sub-categories names: wedding, nursing home, or any other type of category you'd like your songs to be searched & then listed by. I also use the 'keywords' field to store & then later view the appropriate intro/ending settings, but which (on the PSR2000), still has to be set manually . Be sure to remember to use a comma (,) between each entry in the 'keywords' field. The other thing that I do is enter the KEY of the song right after the song name in the 'song title' field. Now you can choose and play any given song quickly, and also be reminded of the correct key to play in as well as which intro & ending to set the KB to.

Ok, hope this gives people ideas of the power & flexibility of the Music Finder. Because of its flexibility , there are many ways you can set it up to work for YOU. It's definitely worth the initial effort of entering the data, especially EZ with the help of Fabien's Excel utility. I would NEVER attempt entering any of this info via the KB itself. - Scott
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#135912 - 06/02/02 01:13 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
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Loc: Lincolnshire UK
Scott & Others. The MMDBEDITOR & MMREGEDITOR for the 9000 & 9000PRO both are fully editable, right down to selecting of Right hand voices, Styles, Muting ACC Parts, Adjusting volumes etc:
Unfortunately the program will not load MusicDataBase files from the new PSR2000 or CVP's which have a mfd file extension.

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#135913 - 06/07/02 09:09 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
TwoNuts Offline
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Registered: 05/02/02
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Loc: Vancouver, Washington. USA
Hey Graham,
I don't think I have seen anyone list a Web address link to the two great editing programs you have been refering to.
I'm sure this would help many people out.

Regards,
Dennis Almond
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#135914 - 06/07/02 09:53 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
Mario Offline
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Registered: 07/07/99
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Loc: Wayside, New jersey, USA
Scott:
I've never tried to add to the Music finder. I will now that I've seen your tread. Wouldn't it wonderful if MF could remember the key of the song? it would probably save my "dilema"! you know, not being able to save the registrations on a floopy with edited styles because they have to be in the User Memory first and you are out of room.
Do you know if this is the case?
Thanks,
Mario
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#135915 - 06/07/02 10:24 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
Uncle Dave Offline
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Add the transpose number to the song title. That might make it easier for you.
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#135916 - 06/07/02 10:52 PM Re: PSR2000: Powerful 'Music Finder' database Feature !
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Mario,

I agree with you that it would have been a LOT BETTER if the Music Finder had included storing the key 'transpose setting' with each song. Yamaha, are you listening?!

As I mentioned earlier, I enter the 'song title', the 'key', and the 'key transpose setting' (if applicable) in the 'song title' field. This way when you pull up any given song in the Music Finder, you immediately see what key to play the song in, as well as what transpose amount (which best matches my vocals) to set the tranpose button(s) to. Example:

Song Title, Key, Transpose Offset
I'll Be There (F) -1

Also, I always try to avoid transposing the key more than (+- 2) 1/2 steps because this can adversely effect the range/sound of the keyboard parts (main,layer,left) & accomp parts as well. I prefer playing in C,D,Eb,F,G,Ab, or Bb, one which is closest to what matches the 'best key' for my voice in a given song, and then transposing it (transpose button) only a 1/2 step or two (only if necessary). If you're a singer and want to know the best way to piss off the the acoustic piano player, ask them to accompany you in C#, E, F#,and B. - Scott
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