I've been playing both the Tyros and the PSR2100 in the store. From initial reactions I would say the 2100 is a poor man's Tyros. In other words, the 2100 is a LOT of keyboard for the money, compared to the Tyros...at about 1/3 the price. Yes, you lose the "megavoices" and some styles, but I don't think that's such a loss compared to all that's packed into the 2100. I tried playing the megavoices live and it's impossible, as far as i can tell.
In comparison to my VA7 and KN7000, some
of the 2100 voices shine. The strings excell. So do the woodwinds. The sop.sax is the best of any I've heard compared to Technics or Roland. The brass is OK...not better, just as good. And the drums blow the doors off the KN. and are more natural sounding than the VA's. Now as far as the deeper things such as the sequencer or the DSP, I cannot comment. I could not go that deep at the store. I spent hours there already. I'm afraid if I stay any longer, they might charge me rent! So there's my praise of the PSR2100 - a lot of bang for the buck. I am more tempted than ever to go out and get me one!

P.S. The styles on the 2100 are tasty, too.

Tim

It really is worth getting the PSR 2100 instead of the PSR 2000 if your willing to pay a little more the PSR 2100. The PSR 2000 has been discontinued and Retail Stores are discounting their current stock in hopes of clearing them out. You could possibly save a 2 to 3 hundred dollars by purchasing a PSR 2000 at a discounted price over the price of the PSR 2100 and although the sounds on the PSR 2000 are "as good" as those on the PSR 2100 from what I've gathered, yet you still get more Sweet!, Live!, and Cool! Voices plus several additional other voices with the PSR 2100. Whether paying 2 to 3 hundred dollars more for 'those' extra 19 Sweet!, Live!, and Cool! Voices and other voices and a bump up increase in User Memory storage space is a decision only you can make.

Best regards,
Mike

PS: Pretty soon you won't have the option to purchase a new PSR 2000 because the current stock is depleting fast. So your only option left will be in buying the higher priced PSR 2100 VS. the PSR 2000'S discounted price. But if you have the cash I would definitely get the PSR 2100.

Gotta agree! As an owner of a pair or 2000s, the sounds are superb, superior to any other manufacturer I've played, and I spent weeks playing keyboards in three states before taking the plunge. Right out of the box, dollar for dollar, the 2000/2100 is right at the top of the keyboard list. IMHO, there's nothing on the market that even gets close.

Cheers,

Gary

Got 2 myself...and I agree. The 2100 and Tyros both seem excellent...but the $$$
Eddie

I think you are right on with that assessment. The panel voices in the 2100 are more similar to the Tyros than those in the 2000 are. You will find plenty of support for both keyboards at http://psrtutorial.com . This includes enough "external" styles to keep you busy for a long, long time.

Joe,

You bring out another point I forgot to make. Yamaha's support online is PRIMO!
I've been looking at all that is available from Yamaha related sites and the amount of support is amazing. Just one more reason for me to go with the 2100! It's really important to me to be able to keep my keyboard fresh with new styles now and then. This is an area Technics and Roland is weak in. I haven't seen new support on their websites for a long time. One exception - an oasis for Technics players is the list here, moderated by Bebop...a great place to be!

Tim
Tim

I would agree, the 2100/2000 are great keyboards but the key difference with the Tyros (at least for me), is being able to use a hard disc for storage.

I have 1000's of midi's and styles and it's fantastic being able to pull them up whenever you need them. I lost count of the number of times I did a quick record and had to mess around trying to find a floppy disc to save to. Not anymore.

If the 2000/2100 had a hard disc, I don't think I would have switched to the Tyros. Probably, many other people would feel the same. In fact, that is probably the reason why the 2000/21000 DOESN'T have a hard disc Or am I getting cynical


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No Paul, you're just providing a dose of reality. That is one of the big drawbacks on the PSR 2000/2100, ie., "the lack of sufficient storage space".

The big drawback on the Tyros imo is the lack of internal speakers. Especially for a 61 Key Arranger. If it had 76 Keys I might be able to understand why it wouldn't have internal speakers, ie., "weight concerns"-and lack of sales because of it. But in this age of high tech products and Space Age materials, I also think that they could add great sounding internal speakers to a 76 Key or even an 88 Key Arranger and still make it to where it would be reasonably easy to transport- "Probably not for most women, but I would say 80% if not more of all Keyboard Players are Men. Come on Guys-'Suck it Up'. A little exercise never hurt anybody. Someday maybe they will, but don't hold your breath till it happens. It seems all Keyboard Manufacturers are years behind in terms of providing a lot of today's technology in their Keyboard products. A good example is Firewire and/or USB 2.0. Another is SD or Smart Media--at least on Yammie's Keyboards anyway. So getting them to make a 76 or 88 Key Arranger with great sounding internal speakers that is fairly light and transportable is probably several years down the road, if at all. PS: I hope I'm wrong and the "if at all" won't figure into the equation.

Best regards,
Mike

People,

Let me get this straight, are you saying the following:

when it comes to sounds and styles, PSR 2100 is essentially a TYROS minus storage and minus Mega voices for 1/3 of the price?

There is quite a difference between the PSR2100 and the Tyros, yet not much difference between the PSR2000 and PSR2100 as you would expect. Obviously you get a lot more voices on the Tyros than the 2100, but also you get twice the polyphony, aftertouch sensitivity, faster CPU's, BETTER and more powerful voices using 8 layers of samples, more DSP's, individual outputs (4) with routing, colour LCD hi-res plus video output, Harddisk interface with fast USB connectivity, upgradeable OS (though maybe possible on 2100?), bigger "spread out" control panel ergonomics, sexy looks, 32 midi channels (2 midi outs, 2 midi in's), 3 pedal inputs and MFC10 support..............

Still I'd say the 2100 is the best value for money sub £1000 keyboard on the market, and its got built in speakers! Its certainly nicer than a 9000 and much lighter!

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