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#138947 - 12/20/05 11:37 PM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
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I'm asking nice. Thanks, DerfM

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#138948 - 12/23/05 07:50 AM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
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I'd forgotten about milli vanilli. Given the nature of a lot of current pop music, I suspect their only big failure was getting caught.

It's a serious point, though. If you use too much of the "assistance" then who knows whether its you doing the singing or the machine.

I try hard to ensure that when we are playing alongside midi files that it is quite clear that this is the case but equally clear that we are doing all the singing and quite a lot af playing as well.
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#138949 - 12/23/05 08:06 AM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
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Originally posted by DerfMuisc:
I'm asking nice. Thanks, DerfM



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#138950 - 12/23/05 08:12 AM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
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Registered: 12/22/05
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Yes, it does work. Although I find I get most of what I need on my arranger (PA1x Pro) I still use some MIDI files so I don't have to worry much about chord changes and doing fills, etc. It also breaks up some of the styles I use for some variations. Most of what I do is praise and worship sionce I do ministry. I am basically the one man band who does ministry, but I did use a copuple of MIDI files for a Christmas Open House gig at a local bank last week. I didn't have to use any of my gear though, because I have a good relationship with the local music store. They set up a Clavinova CVP-307 free of charge as advertisement. A very nice instrument with real usable styles and great sounds.

"Sing"cerly,
Jeff
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#138951 - 12/23/05 11:57 PM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
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DonM. . .
I got an early Xmas present. Played my first MIDI songs on the T2, and I think I've now have a whole new set of options for doing a little performing out in the real world. A couple of basic questions. . .do you commonly turn off certain tracks so the melody doesn't conflict with singing? Also, do you save individual MIDI songs to registrations to build sets that way? Thanks again. Very Cool and Happy Holidays. DerfM

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#138952 - 12/24/05 11:14 AM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
Nigel Offline
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Originally posted by MacAllcock:
I'd forgotten about milli vanilli.


But unlike playing along with MIDI files they weren't actually performing. If they HAD been singing over recordings of themselves singing other vocal parts there never would have been the controversy. It was more that they weren't singing at all that was the problem there.

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#138953 - 12/25/05 06:49 AM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
DonM Offline
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Originally posted by DerfMuisc:
DonM. . .
I got an early Xmas present. Played my first MIDI songs on the T2, and I think I've now have a whole new set of options for doing a little performing out in the real world. A couple of basic questions. . .do you commonly turn off certain tracks so the melody doesn't conflict with singing? Also, do you save individual MIDI songs to registrations to build sets that way? Thanks again. Very Cool and Happy Holidays. DerfM



I very seldom use midi files, so I'm not the one to be giving much advice. On the ones I use, I do mute the melody track, and sometimes another, so I have something left to play myself. I don't save them to registrations, because I may only use one or two a night.
Have a great Christmas!
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#138954 - 12/25/05 08:06 AM Re: Using MIDI stuff in the real world
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I use MIDI files about 50% of the time.These are always professionally done and I always mute the melody tack. Sometimes I will sing over it,sometimes play the second verse and come in again at the bridge.
Many of them are too busy to be believable. In those cases I mute or lower other tracks and play left hand accompaniment as well.

I think they have a place in today's music as long as you are honest,and play or sing a substantial part.

Bernie
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