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#141233 - 07/21/03 09:50 AM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
btweengigs Offline
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(Court TV) -- Radio stations and Web sites were flooded yesterday with news that the seminal heavy metal band, Metallica, had launched yet another lawsuit to protect its music from theft. This time, the rock pioneers were purportedly suing a Canadian band called Unfaith for trademark infringement over the use of a "Metallica-branded" chords E and F.

The only problem: The story was a ruse.

"That's a hoax," Metallica's Los Angeles-based lawyer, Jill Pietrini, told Courttv.com.

.....AND so the story goes, yada yada.

Full story at: http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/17/ctv.metallica/

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#141234 - 07/21/03 10:16 AM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
Scottyee Offline
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Chord changes by themselves are NOT copyrightable. In fact bebop jazz musicians commonly improvised over the chord changes to well known popular songs, composing entirely new melodies. For example, the Classic jazz number, "Donna Lee", composed by Charlie Parker is played over the same chord changes as the old standard "Back Home Indiana". And don't forget the Gershwin classic: "I Got Rhythm" in which its chord progression is now commonly referred to as "Rhythm Changes':
http://www.mandolincafe.com/rhythmchanges.html

and found in Ellington's "Cottontail" & "Lester Leaps" among many hundreds of other songs which incorporate these same chord changes.

Scott
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#141235 - 07/21/03 10:30 AM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
Starkeeper Offline
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That is very interesting Scott. I don't have a problem improvising on chords (new melody line), but coming up with new chord progressions is a little bit more challenging.
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#141236 - 07/21/03 10:37 AM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
Fran Carango Offline
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E,F....who in their right mind wants to sound like Metallica???
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#141237 - 07/21/03 10:48 AM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
royandreno Offline
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If it brings in million of dollars, I don't care what I sound like!

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#141238 - 07/21/03 11:16 AM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
Uncle Dave Offline
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Hmmmm, that's where we are different. i don't ever expect to get rich during my lifetime, but I sure do intend to enjoy the ride !
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#141239 - 07/21/03 11:22 AM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
tony mads usa Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Leon:
Okay....I've got dibs on [b]Eb maj7th.
Phew....hope I got that one registered in time. E and F....hmmmm, I guess when you only play one string, they might have a case...but wait...doesn't it have to be in TUNE first!!!!

[/B]


Damn, Leon, I wanted that one... okay I'm claiming AbMaj7 ....
"in tune" ?!? .. what's that ...
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#141240 - 07/21/03 12:52 PM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
royandreno Offline
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UD,
I'd spend some years playing crap for zillions, then I'd spend the rest enjoying the ride......tremendously, at least as much as you! Imagine, never again worrying if I ever got paid for a single job!!
Ok, if you now tell me we are different, I don't believe you......
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#141241 - 07/21/03 03:28 PM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
Pilot Offline
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Loc: Ontario,Canada
Just to expand on Scott's post, here are some of the tunes and chord sequences used by Charlie Parker:

Ah-Leu-Cha - I Got Rhythm
Bird Gets the Worm - Lover Come Back to Me
Chasing the Bird - I Got Rhythm/Honeysuckle Rose
Half Nelson - Ladybird
Klaunstance - The Way You Look Tonight
KoKo - Cherokee
Little Willie Leaps - All God's Chillun Got Rhythm
Meandering - Embraceable You
Ornithology - How High the Moon

etc.

As Scott says, there's no copyright on chord sequences.

Bryan

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#141242 - 07/23/03 08:25 PM Re: Band sues over use of E & F Chords
Vquestor Offline
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Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 554
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Originally posted by btweengigs:
(Court TV) -- Radio stations and Web sites were flooded yesterday with news that the seminal heavy metal band, Metallica, had launched yet another lawsuit to protect its music from theft. This time, the rock pioneers were purportedly suing a Canadian band called Unfaith for trademark infringement over the use of a "Metallica-branded" chords E and F.

The only problem: The story was a ruse.

"That's a hoax," Metallica's Los Angeles-based lawyer, Jill Pietrini, told Courttv.com.

.....AND so the story goes, yada yada.

Full story at: http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/17/ctv.metallica/


I would just like to repeat Nigel Tuffnel's (of Spinal Tap) famous quote, "Dm is the saddest of all keys".

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