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#141830 - 04/06/05 01:47 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
lacobo Offline
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I Tried 2 Casio's (and not the least: MZ-2000 and WK-3000) but I couldn't get used to the styles of Casio. Many of the sounds are of an equal quality or even better than Yamaha (especially organ sounds!) but I find the styles not very player friendly. Is this because I'm a European player or do others feel the same?

Bert.
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#141831 - 04/06/05 02:19 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
Starkeeper Offline
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Loc: Toronto
Quote:
Originally posted by lacobo:
I Tried 2 Casio's (and not the least: MZ-2000 and WK-3000) but I couldn't get used to the styles of Casio. Many of the sounds are of an equal quality or even better than Yamaha (especially organ sounds!) but I find the styles not very player friendly. Is this because I'm a European player or do others feel the same?

Bert.


I found the styles to be too busy for me. They are more youth oriented, IMO. You could add 16 user styles though.
Organ sounds on the Casio were very good and lots of them. No voices even close to Yamaha's sweet voices.
The key feel is excellent with full size keys, but the quality is a concern to me. Squeak said the keys made noise after a while. I would find that annoying.
Starkeeper

[This message has been edited by Starkeeper (edited 04-06-2005).]
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#141832 - 04/06/05 02:29 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
manic2257 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/05
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but still only 32 note polyphony...HUGE drawback..

peace, out

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#141833 - 04/06/05 02:30 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
BlkNotes Offline
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Did the keys Squeak?


Regards;
BN

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#141834 - 04/06/05 02:35 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
SemiLiveMusic Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
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Originally posted by manic2257:
but still only 32 note polyphony...HUGE drawback..

peace, out


Isn't that what Yamaha psr2000 has? Any real problems with the polyphony?
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#141835 - 04/06/05 02:40 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
trident Offline
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Registered: 08/22/04
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Loc: Athens, Greece
On german "ebay shops", the current prices are ~600E for the WK 3500 and ~450 for the WK 3000
If it had 4 variations I would commit murder over it.
Starkeeper 32 MB are for user loaded waves, the actual ROM for the sounds is probably a lot less.

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#141836 - 04/06/05 03:07 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Trident,
I was very surprised to see 32mb's for flash memory. Hell the flash memory is bigger than the memory for the internal sounds. 32mb's is a lot of space for loading sounds.

Like Starkeeper said, the user sample area is bigger than the PSR 1500's whole sound set.

The styles as with any keyboard are subjective--this topic we've all beat to death in the past Personally I liked more of the funk, hip hop, and R&B styles on the WK's. Even some of the basic 8 beat and 16 beat styles have a more modern groove to them.

BlkNotes, I don't think you can increase the memory above 32mb's. However you still have to consider that 32mb's is a lot of space (especially coming from a Casio keyboard). You could load a 10mb piano sample (which would blow the socks off of quite a few out there), and still have 12mb's of available space. Even just 1mb sounds will be better than the internal sounds. Especially considering if a board has say 12-16mb's for an entire sound set. You could load a huge 10mb piano, and still load 12 more 1mb sound samples. There's just so many possibilites with that amount of memory. Of course more is always better, but again cost plays in here.

I do agree that 32 note poly is still limited a bit. It appears new sounds have been added and old ones cleaned up. So if some of those sounds are bigger then poly is going down the tube

Squeak
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#141837 - 04/06/05 03:15 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
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Originally posted by BlkNotes:


Did the keys Squeak?


Regards;
BN


Squeak can confirm if they squeak.
Starkeeper
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#141838 - 04/06/05 03:17 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
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Loc: Toronto
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Originally posted by trident:

Starkeeper 32 MB are for user loaded waves, the actual ROM for the sounds is probably a lot less.

Doh!! . You are right.
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#141839 - 04/06/05 03:55 PM Re: New Casio WK-3700 and WK3200 !!!!!!!!!
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Loc: West Virginia
The key problem depends on the individual. When you first buy the board the action is great (especially if you've been used to the Yamaha PSR line). The keys are bigger and have a longer throw. However after time they tend to develop a little mechanical buzz. It's not bad, and doesn't get in the way of playing either. If you play at very low volumes it will drive you crazy, but turning the board up 1/2 takes care of it, and for lower volumes you would use headphones anyways. I've also spoke to some that haven't had this problem too. I find that odd though. My MZ-2000 even began to do the same thing shortly before I sold it.

Squeak
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