There is still a mystery concerning the Tyros2's WAV ROM amount. There have been reports that it is 300Mb but Yamaha is still mum about the exact and or 'true' amount. As I've said before I think maybe one reason is Yamaha doesn't want to reveal the amount because if it is just a few Megabytes more than the current Tyros it would be easy to see why people may not want to upgrade to the new Tyros2. So if people are unaware (unsuspecting) of the amount they will happily lay down their cash anyway. Just look at Scott Yee as an example.

Just kidding Scott but I think I can safely say you are without a doubt Yamaha's most prized secret weapon marketing representative. And the funny thing is you aren't getting a dime for all your trouble. Although to you I don't think it is considered trouble at all. You enjoy it thoroughly I'm sure. Which is fine and dandy but I vote you get paid for your endeavour.

All kidding aside I think another reason the amount remains a mystery is because if it IS 300Mb then there may be a marketing conflict with their Workstation Motif ES series keyboards. The Motif ES has 175Mb and is their Flagship Workstation. The Tyros2 with 300Mb would possibly put a wrinkle in Motif ES sales so better it not be known if that is the case, right? Something to think about anyway.

So what do you think? Why may you feel Yamaha hasn't disclosed the amount of WAV ROM of the Tyros2 to not only potential buyers but to the public in general? What have they got to hide? What do you think?

Best regards,
Mike

It's not the size...it's what you do with it.
You can make specs say anything you want ever read Rolands mumbo jumbo equal to..... linear format .....whatever

Keybplayer, my respects to you, but...
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about why Yam didn't reveal the amount of WAVE ROM.

I can't see how the size of ROM found on one keyboard could affect the sales of another. The keyboards you listed are of different kind - Tyros is an arranger, Motif is a workstation, BOTH made by Yamaha. What's more, you can add your voices into both keyboars.
IMO this is definitely a marketing trick, but probably the goal here is not to let you compare the ROM of Yamaha's keyboard to the rom on keyobards made by their competitors.
Anyway, size of rom is not important, what is important is how the keyb sounds.
Best regards,
George

Mike,
You are to hung up on statistics. Stats on the wave ROM size (tyros 2), Stats on the Korg polyphony (PA1X). Quantity of keys on the Tyros 2 (76) .
Starkeeper

Come to think of it - how much wave ROM does the Korg PA1X have? - not seen that in the spec sheet either.....

1) Wave Rom = sound quality

2) You can't make specs say anything you want. If you understand specs, then you are able to properly interpret if a company is presenting the specs in a certain light in order to make thier product seem ( to the untrained/un-informed) to favour their keyboard.

Regards;
BN

Original, authentic Hammond B3. WaveRom=0. Sounds pretty good to me.

chas

Cgiles;

I don't understand your statement. You are comparing apples and oranges. We are talking about comparing keyboards with the same sound generation technology. The B3 sounds that are in KBs now use MV samples to generate their sounds.

Regards;
BN

New Roland G70.......192 Mb Wav Rom

Wave Rom doesn't necessarily equal sound quality. It depends on what was sampled in the first place, how much of the wave rom is used for the different samples. Number of sample layers etc. a lot of stuff comes into the equation. For instance a 2 gigabyte piano sample might sound good, but lets say the 2 gb sample is sampled from the Yamaha P250s Grand Piano Sound. Then the 2gb sample will not sound any better than the original 32MB sample. So all of this depends on the source of the sample, the sampling technique, and how much and type of compression used.

Doc-Z

BlkNotes, perhaps I was being a bit facetious (Nigel, any chance of getting a spell checker attached to this board). I'm aware of the different technologies involved in sound generation. What I meant was that some instruments just seem to sound good and others don't. Doc-Z said it well, "Wave Rom doesn't necessarily equal sound quality", ie. you can't polish a turd. There is no question that large amounts of Wave Rom increases the POTENTIAL for good sound quality but does not garantee it. All of these sounds go through additional processing which introduces many other variables (quality of the effects, filters, etc.) and which contributes heavily to the sound(s) of the instrument. Ultimately, it comes down to how it sounds to you. If it sounds good, buy it. Always worked for me.

chas

As they say, it ain't what you've got that matters, its what you do with it.

The Tyros 2 to my ears sounds fabulous. But then so do all the other top-end units.

When I look at a spec sheet I look at features and flexibility. I take sound quality as a given at this end of the market.

For comparison my aging Ensoniq SD1 has all of 1 megabtye (I think, maybe 2!) of ROM dedicated to piano waveforms and it still kicks thingy.