http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38090&item=7309180494&rd=1


The seller has 46 feedbacks, but has never sold anything..they just buy little [inexspensive] items..

No reserve is mentioned..



[This message has been edited by Fran Carango (edited 03-19-2005).]

[This message has been edited by Fran Carango (edited 03-19-2005).]

Could be real....Ask them some questions. I'm surprised I didn't see any shipping or production information like; "we purchased this and it's too much keyboard for us" or something like that. NO mention of what condition it's in.

However, I'm with you and think it highly suspicious.

You should know the standard drill by now.. ask the seller to allow you to purchase it on ESCROW payment.

Al

ask to see a picture of the actual keyboard he is selling, not a stock photo.

ITs his first time seling an item, i doubt its real, be careful.

Phil

Hi Fran

I bought most of my major equipment through ebay and my Tyros from a for sale add on one of the forums.

If you're interested, and it's high ticket, and you're uncertain, I'd start with email and ask for a phone number. You should be able to tell right away.

Good Luck

Scott Langholff

The best thing is for you to ask him to
send you the Serial #. If he says its in a sealed box let him know the number is also on
the box. This will usually scare them away.
Bruce

Allthough good advices , there's only one way .
Tell them you wanna pick it up and pay cash.

If I suspect a scam this is allways what I do.

If you cannot pickup , report to E-Bay immediately!
They might even have stolen someone's ID.

Fred

Hi Fran,
it doesn'look very promising.

The newest Roland high end arranger,
only very recently available in the States and on selected shops only,
for sale,
in the hands of someone who is on Ebay for a little more than a year and has no musical buying or selling past, (at least not the past 90 days, except an amplifier and a subwoofer enclosure)
on a 1-day auction listing?

On the other hand, if you have the time, and a fast internet connection, you can wait until it is about 10 min to the end and then bid, then see what happens.

Just for kicks, I e-mailed him with a serial # request and when & where did he buy it asked why he was selling it....no answer.



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ViLo
HE'S COMING, MAKE MUSIC, GET READY!

Well Pinky is a proud new owner of a G-70... for 898.00. I should have thrown up a bid... under 1000 so if it did fail ebay has the buyer protection. (Unlike Paypal, I HATE YOU! )

Ohh would that be sweet Id resell it, whoa what a profit

Im kinda debating on whether the people were dumb enough to not bid, or smart enough to realize the fraud???

Phil

[This message has been edited by Pennywizz6 (edited 03-19-2005).]

This is the sellers reply, way after the acution ended:

"Hello,

My name is Cesar Padilla and I'm a sales manager at a storage company.
We had a local warehouse that we are trying to get rid of our inventory so we can either restock it or sell it, we haven't decided which yet. I can guarantee you that all keyboards are in perfect condition, brand new in box. All keyboards have warranty directly from the supplier.
I don't believe in misleading our customers because if we do decide to restock, we want to keep you as a customer. Also with each purchase we include a thank you card and a free gift.
Due to this kind of in a rush situation we offer prices a bit lower then normal. The price that we ask for this keyboard is $2300 USD with all shipping and handling costs included. We normally use UPS express for shipping but we are opened to any other suggestions.
I have in mind both my security and your security for a possible deal so I am willing to work with a protection program offered by eBay. Using this program you will have a 3 day period for inspecting the item before confirming to eBay that either you are going to keep the keyboard or return it and get your money back from eBay.
Let me know also if you want to buy the product and if you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask.
Thank you and I hope to close our deal soon,"

Cesar Padilla

Don't you know that it is one of ways that Roland makes a publicity with their product by using eBay. By this way, they will know how G-70 is interested by people, how many people and on what time?
It could be the Roland guy that sells you the namm demonstration machine. 900 USD is not expensive for the buyer and nor the seller. This is the way to make publicity with statistics on this new product.

Dangit Dangit Dangit Dangit!!! Im too late I saw a V-synth sell for 600 about 3 months ago, I still kick myself for not trying anyways. I mean 1000 ebay guarantee... You realy cant go wrong!

Phil

Phil, it stinks to high Heaven.
DonM

I still have my doubts, this guy writes in broken english, has anspanish name, yet when I requested more info, in spanish he's reply was: "Please write english"...His either filipino or he's playing games.

Another thing: What about if the person that won the auction belongs to the same ring?

Anyone can easely do that buy having your friend or a family member bid for the item....and then pretend he won and he's satisfied give him a good review etc etc...

Or it can be an stolen item.... [?]

What is the street price for the G-70 Roland Keyborad? $3495.00? and it was sold for $899.00 c'mon guys there's something "fishie" with that deal!

[This message has been edited by ViLo (edited 03-20-2005).]

But would it not be better to contact eBay earlier
on to avoid someone lose money on this as well as
discuss it here at SZ?
And who'll sell it for $899?
(Maybe stolen or the G70 is a totally flop?)
GJ

Please read the reply this guy sent me.

Apparently he has more keyboards...

Dear Vilo;

Did he give you the serial number of the machine like you requested?

Thanks;
BN

No, he did not.

I sent him another e-mail to find out if he had Yamaha PSR3000's here is his answer:
Hello ,

"No I'm realy sorry I have available just a lot of ROLAND G-70, so if you are still interested just let me know."

Thank you




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ViLo
HE'S COMING, MAKE MUSIC, GET READY!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ViLo:
Please read the reply this guy sent me.
Apparently he has more keyboards...QUOTE]

Sorry that I did not read carefully, probably Alzheimer light again
But he has a load of G70 in stock, just too bad it will doubble the
price to send one in my direction....
GJ

Hummmmm.....Do YOu think he is gor real?

I don't know if it's real or not, but if this is posible and works:
QUOTED from earlier in this tread:..so I am willing to work with a
protection program offered by eBay.END QUOTE
If this really work that way that the money are safe within a 3rd
person or company until the customer are sure it is'nt any kind of
false trades, it's sure a kind of guarantee, is'nt it?
GJ

Remember - If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Good luck. If one of you buys one and wants to sell, then let us know.

I've never been LESS interested in a new entry than this G70. I'm so surprised that Roland went this direction.

I've received a warning from ebay, telling me not to comunicate with this person, but I guess is an standard warning...sent to anybody that comunicate outside ebays domain.

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ViLo
HE'S COMING, MAKE MUSIC, GET READY!

Dear Vilo;

I sent you mail. Did you receive it?


Regards;
BN

Uncle Dave,

my thoughts exactly.............

Dear Uncle Dave;

What do you mean by your statement, " I'm so surprised that Roland went in this direction"?

Thanks;
BN

I forgot to check the hotmail mail box, I just replied.

Thanks.

Check you hotmail mail box, SECOND REPLY.



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ViLo
HE'S COMING, MAKE MUSIC, GET READY!

Thanks Vilo

Regards;
BN

The item has been removed from e-bay....
IT WAS A SCAM....it normally happens with the Tyros....another one bites the dust....

This kind of info. is one of the benefits of having a forum like this.