I never take the cover off the amp. The cover slides easily off the the bass bin. Initially the covers on the two pieces of the tower are quite tight, but after a few uses they loosen up.
No problems.
You'll have a 45 day trial to decide for yourself.
DonM

Have I A/B'd Bose L1's with my EON's? No. Heard them used by local musos and had a chance to walk around a room to listen? Definitely... outdoors too. My impression of L1's being overpriced speakers-in-a-stick stands. I'm all for hi-tech and I've used Bose systems previously, and if I thought the L1's were the way to go I'd own a pair (stereo 4 life).

Tell you a story that may help... how I wound up with EON's was that I actually did set up a huge A/B test outdoors about ten years ago with my former Bose 800's + the Bose subwoofer system against the JBL powered EON's and subs which had just come out at the time, and I ran white and pink noise through them with no EQ and did a frequency spectrum analysis. The EON's were much flatter than the Bose... and if you think about it, you never see Bose speakers of any kind used in a studio for that reason. A balanced speaker response is very important to me as a keyboardist so I ditched my Bose in favor of EON's with no regrets.

I would suggest repeating this test with Bose L1's if possible, and since I haven't done this I don't know what the results would be in advance. Maybe this will give you an unbiased indication of the L1's ability to reproduce all frequencies in an even manner as I found the JBL EON's can.

Esh, Which JBL’s are you using? And are you using a sub? If so which one?
John C. --- Thanks

Scott. When at our Keyboard Festival last April two pro concert players used the PAS in concert. One used it also for a late night dance session. I stayed behind in the concert ballroom after the evening concert for the purpose of listening to the PAS during the dance session. I was very much wanting to like the sound after all the reports on the forums.
Without a doubt the dispersion of sound whether you were close or further away was excellent, but I had difficulty coming to terms with the mid range frequency prominence. Possibly this was due to the system not being EQ properly ?. Also the player had the volume far too load which may have effected my judgment.
Next month Sept we are attending the Keyboard Festival again and it will be interesting to see if my view of the PAS has changed.

I agree with Graham UK, they were in use at the Blackpool Festival in May this year, and I was also very disappointed with the sound, (As I mentioned in my report) it was too hard sounding and very unnatural as if the EQ needed adjusting.
Interestingly I have the Franz Lambert DVD of his Euro tour and the sound from the Bose is brilliant, however I did notice that he had controls each side of him which he altered to suit the style and type of music he performed, and I think (Although I may be wrong) these actually altered the EQ settings on the Twin Bose systems in use.
Anyway we will see what September brings.
Enjoy whatever you play.

Bill

It appears as if things have quieted down here at the Synthzone considerably during the past two weeks--NICE!

Graham,

I strongly suspect the person that was using the Bose did not have his keyboard, or the BOSE L1, or both, properly EQ'd, which would not be unusual. The latest updated presets are excellent, especially #55 and #57, both of which are ideal for most keyboards. However, it's equally important that the keyboard itself be properly EQ'd. I believe this may have been the problem that Esh encountered when he listened to the system.

The dispersion of sound is beyond description, and individuals that have used conventional systems have the tendency to turn the Bose up too loud, thus overpowering the audiences. One thing that most newcomers to the system seem to neglect is the sound level they hear is exactly what the audience hears. No longer does the person sitting close to the speakers have his or her head blown off, while those situated in the back of the room have trouble hearing the music--this is not the case with the L1 system.

Those of us that have been using this particular system for a while will never go back to a conventional sound system. Audience response ranges from excellent to outstanding, setup time is not as long as some conventional systems, the individual components are relatively lightweight, it's built to last a lifetime, and while the price was about double what I paid for a pair of Barbetta Sona 32-CS speakers, the sound quality far exceeds any conventional sound system on the market today. I spent a lot of time, and money, trying other systems, some of which were touted as the best. IMO, and the opinion of many other pros, nothing, absolutely nothing, can compare to the Bose L1.

Next week I'll be doing my 3rd outdoor job with the L1 at Aberdeen Maryland's Concert In The Park. This will be the largest outdoor job I've done and I sincerely believe the Bose L1 will do an outstanding job--even in an area the size of a football field.

Scott, Buy the system using the 45-day return policy, spend some time setting the EQs, then querry your audiences about the sound quality--you'll be amazed at the responses.

Good Luck,

Gary

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Travlin' Easy

I am currently using a pair of the JBL EON G2 10's with the standard (non-G2) powered JBL EON subs. I mostly use the EON's for larger rooms or outdoors - my normal stage amp for average-to-small rooms is the Motion Sound KP-200s or KP-100s.

Scott,

You asked if anyone had done a comparison of the Bose L1's to the Electrovoice SXA 360's. While I have never used the Bose L1's and only tested them in a Guitar Center showroom, I do use the EV's in my current sound system. In my opinion the SXA 360's will give you a better quality sound as well as a lot more power. I noticed that Bose does not give out the SPL(sound pressure level) rating of the L1's so I called the number in the manual to get this info, not that it is the only factor but it is certainly one that helps give us insight into how different brand speakers compare. The technician I spoke with said, "We don't give out the SPL rating of our systems since we feel that those types of numbers can be misleading". I found this answer to be interesting since all other speaker manufacturer specifications that I am aware of have always included this information.

If you are doing smaller indoor venues then the Bose will probably do the trick. Note that Bose still has a pro division which makes the larger more poweful systems including the "old stand by" 802's which they have designed for larger venues.

You asked for the weight of the Bose L1's. Here is what is listed in the manual:
PS1 power stand - 35 lb.
Lower L1 - 16 lb.
Upper L1 - 14.5 lb.
R1 remote - 0.6 lb.
B1 bass module - 28 lb.
Thats about 93 lbs total for the single L1 system.

I know that you have the SXA 100's but the 360's are completely different animals. They have a different high frequency driver(DH2T Compression Driver) that puts out a lot more power than the one in the 100's. I own both and the 360's have a much better sound. The engineer at EV described them as being more "vocal forward" and said that this driver was similar to the one used in the Plasma P1( http://www.electrovoice.com/products/30.html ) except it uses a 2" voice coil instead of the 3" that is in the plasma. The 100's have a 1" voice coil.

As a side note: the EV slip covers fit the 360's better than the 100's as the 360's are flat across the entire back side without the annoying fins that protrude from the 100's.

Esh, I like the JBL's also. Before I bought the EV's I had the older (non G2)powered Eons, three 15's and two 10's. They had a very good sound. Oh and btw I too remember those "tiny Dawn speaker systems" that you mentioned. I tested one about 20 yrs ago and the whole band had a good laugh afterwards. LOL

Scott, the important thing is to find is to find what works for you and makes you happy!

If we all had the same opinion it would get pretty boring around here.

Richard

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