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#146225 - 05/28/03 06:45 AM Re: loop recording
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
Squeak,
No I haven't really looked into the Triton very much. I used my brother-in-law's for an organ part on a demo, but other than that haven't really checked it out. Maybe it's because I had a Korg iX300 and wasn't impressed with most of the sounds. I know the Triton sound engine is completely different, but I still haven't been interested (although my idol, Felix Cavileiri of the Rascals usues one) - I was looking to replace the iX with something else, which ended up being a 2k. I've tried a few arranger modules, but couldn't quite get accustomed to sharing the keyboard with the mod. I love the 2k, but don't use it as an arranger on the job as much as I thought I would, so that's why I long for a synth again, but I'd have to keep the 2k or something like it. I find that most arrangers are really made more for the European market than the US. They seem to use them more effeciently there and still play a lot more traditional dance styles. To use this in a classic rock/oldies venue, as I do, isn't really what they were designed for. Actually, I half-thinking of looking for a new band with a real drummer and bass player, but probably won't.
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#146226 - 05/28/03 10:35 AM Re: loop recording
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
I think you might like the Triton LE. The sounds are based on the original Triton.. Go to a few websites and look for some demos. That older model Korg you had will not sound as good as the LE model. The 2k is a great keybaord. It's a shame the US market for arrangers isn't as popular as it is over seas.

Squeak
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#146227 - 05/28/03 12:36 PM Re: loop recording
KN_Fan Offline
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Registered: 10/01/02
Posts: 492
Hi Cassp,

regarding the Technics- It has 4 user memory banks (A,B,C,D) with 4 variations each plus user customized intro/2 fills/endings. You get to create your own "loop" or "pattern" up to 12 measures each.

What I used to do was something like this: Mem Bank A var 1: Intro
Mem Bank A var 2: Verse
Mem Bank A var 3: Verse2
Mem Bank A var 4: chorus
and so on....you get the idea. You basically can play all this live (use the split mode, set it so that you'll have the whole keyboard except for the far left "c1" for the accompaniment to keep playing).

Yamaha has something similar- but not that many onboard accessible memory (Scott Yee and I had loooong discussion on this, he'll be able to fill you in on this issue I think).

Korg- I do also own the Triton Studio, which has the "PlyLoop" function, separately for each track. If you've never used Technics before, this may be somewhat acceptable, I was a Technics user for 15 years, so it took little bit of time to get used to a different way to do things. You can also do "short songs" (song001,song002,etc) treat them as part of your actual songs, and tie them all up in the end. The difference is, that with the triton you have to program this in advance (not live).

I've heard Korg PA80 may have similar feature like Technics..but you may want to wait for PA-X to come in. I only played the PA80 for about an hour at the store (probably not enough time or manual was not clear- I couldn't work it the way I wanted it to be)...but who knows you'll probably have a different experience.

That's about it for now- sorry for long response.
KN_Fan

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#146228 - 05/28/03 01:16 PM Re: loop recording
shakeel Ahmed Offline
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Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 141
Loc: gujranwala,punjab,Pakistan
Sorry my dear Kn-fan.U have been playing Technics boards for last 15 years and u have
a little knowlege about the sequencer.I am
sorry i dont know what models have been with u.

I have kn6500 and it has the best sequencer i have ever had.Regarading the loop
wihch,i think is the most imprtant function
is available in 6500 in all the sections
for example in easy rec mode,in multi and
ofcourse in making your own patterns.

KN6500 is realy made for pro song maker
it gives me a lot of pleasure when i compose
my song and the best editing functions.
Ofcourse the Kn7000 also has the same os.

Do not waste your time go for Technics.
and it will become your better-half,I hope.
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#146229 - 05/28/03 01:33 PM Re: loop recording
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
That's cool that the technics allows you to loop in all areas (even the song sequencer).. I didn't know you could do this on those models. Yamaha should take note of this and start putting better sequencers in their arrangers. However, again Yammie wants to keep that fine line between arrangers and synths, and probably will always fall short on some things intentionally. If something like the Tyros was in the price range of say a Yamaha Motif6, then I think you'd see more synth users coming over to play.. Most people I talk to actually like arrangers, but don't want to pay three grand for a Tyros or a 9000 Pro, when they can get a Yamaha Motif for less.

Squeak
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