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#147717 - 11/13/00 09:28 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Vocal Mics are such an invidual and personal thing (like choosing underwear). All brands/models of Mics react to people's voices in very different ways. What may enhance the quality of one person's voice may bring out the worst qualites of another person. Granted, the Shure SM58 has been the accepted mic standard for many years but I found it a little brittle and harsh in the midrange for "my voice". I purchased an ElectroVoice EV767N/D nearly ten years ago and it continues to be my #1 favorite "live performance" mic (for Pop/Jazz style vocals) because of it's HOT signal "warm sound" & smooth response (great for ballads), and its' 100% reliability (hasn't failed me in ten years). I have spent hours auditioning other stage mics but keep coming back to the trusty EV757. I even took home the Sennheiser E855 (my other fav stage mic so far) for a spin (in hopes of looking for yet another mic which might be better than the EV757), but after trying it for a week, returned it. I found the Sennheiser E855 to be an excellent sounding mic but I guess I somehow prefered the "warmer" sound of the EV757 (though some people might find it too much so). The bottom line: There is no "one right or best" sounding vocal stage mic out there. Every mic is designed differently and will sound slightly different depending on both the indiviual timbre of your voice, your vocal range and style of music you perform. Take your time to audition all available and decide on one which will enhance your unique voice best. Hmmm, I think I'll go back and give that Sennheiser E855 another audition again. Make Music and make people happy, Scott
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#147740 - 11/25/00 02:51 AM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
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I make my living performing in nursing homes, retirement homes, and schools. My performances are up to 1 hour long. I do from 1 to 4 performances per day. I plug a Radioshack headset mic into my PSR 740. I like a headset because I can look any direction I want, and even fumble for buttons and always have the mic next to my mouth. I like the Radioshack headset because it comes with a very tiny watch battery mic preamp so the signal is very hot. The two headset mics I tried from Guitar Center weren't loud enough even with my keyboard mic knob turned up all the way - and I definitely don't want to mess with an outboard preamp. Also, for a nominal price, I get a three year warranty. I own two such mics, and every 6 months, I have to get one repaired. I'm glad it's free and hassle free. I would love to use a headset wireless mic, but since I like to minimize setup time, it is impractical.
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#147745 - 11/29/00 08:20 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
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I don't know the model # for the mic I use. I'd have to search around the house. I do know that it costs $49 and is sold at pretty much every radioshack that I've seen. It does have a 1/4 " plug - actually, I think it comes with a 1/4" adapter covering an 1/8" plug. I'm pretty happy with it, I bought a $120 Technics headset mic at Guitar Center, but it didn't deliver a strong enough signal. I didn't want to deal with a mic preamp. I thought keep it simple so I decided to stick with the Radioshack mic. I have never had anyone complain about the quality of the vocals, to the contrary, I get a lot of compliments on my voice. For me, the advantage of having the mic always right next to my mouth, and being able to look at everyone in the audience while I sing plus never having to deal with a boom - these beat the one advantage of the professional mics which is improved fidelity. But heck, my head isn't a slave to a 2 inch radius, and I think I'm a lot better performer because of it.
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#147746 - 11/29/00 09:10 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
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Hi Guys, my wife and I have been using Shure SM58 for a while with our PSR-8000. We plug it first through a Mackie mixer than the keyboard. A friend of mine told me recently to try out the AKG 1000C wich he has used in studio recordings with good results. We tried it and liked it right away. More clarity, better frequency response, more power etc. Try it out and see if you like it. Have fun, Eric
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#147754 - 08/23/05 08:05 AM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Most of the time now, I use a Sennheiser 855. It seems to work well with my Ketron SD1. I also have SM58, SM87, three Behringers, a couple of Samsons, a cordless AT, etc. I use the cheap ones for guests, but they are suprisingly good now. DonM
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#147757 - 08/23/05 10:07 AM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by Dnj: Got rid of my Senn 855....Im using a Beta 58 but Im getting bored with it.....might try the EV767 again its a real hot signal mic. Donny: Curious WHY you got rid of the Sennheiser 855. Was there something in particular about its sound that no longer satisfied you, or were you just bored & looking for a change? Interestingly enough, I've been still (after all these years ) considering a Sennheiser 855 (primarily because of Donny's past recommendation), a Shure Beta 87, or an Audix OM5 for my next stage mic. I'm especially interested in the Audix OM5 as I've heard its one of the most 'natural sounding' (unhyped) acoustic vocal mics out there. Anyone here have experience with the Audix OM5 or Audix mics in general, or the others mics I listed (Shure Beta 87, Sennheiser 855) plugged DIRECTLY into a Yamaha Tyros or PSR3000 keyboard's mic input jack, and driving the keyboard's onboard vocal harmonizer? Realizing the mic's signal output strength contributes to the harmonizer production sound quality, curious how these mics compare (in this regard) with the hot signal output of the EV 767. That said, Believe it or not, I'm STILL performing with my 15 year old Electro-Voice EV767. It's like that old energizer bunny, it keeps going and going, delivering satisfying vocals. Year after year, I keep saying it's time to purchase another mic, but nothing yet has peeked my interest enough to switch. In addition to appreciating its high output signal & smooth vocal reproduction, my EV mic includes: a patented 'soft' grip handle of which includes a slighter wider diameter neck than standard, making for terrific hand held mic comfort & feel, and handy bass roll-off switch. To top it off, this mic is durable, surviving countless drops on stage. My ONLY disappointment is that it doesn't include a 'built-in' on/off switch. Perhaps I too am merely feeling itchy (after 15 years) for something new in the mic dept. - Scott
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#147763 - 08/23/05 11:33 AM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 06/24/05
Posts: 892
Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
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Hi Donny, I used an SM 58 for 35 years until recently. I do Wednesday nights at the top of the Hyatt Regency here in Baltimore. One of the other guys that also plays the room was in one night from another gig and he had a Neumann KMS 105 with him. During the break he asked me if I wanted to try it out and I did. Wow, what a difference. I have a project studio and I've always been a Neumann fan for studio use, but I'd never considered using one live. Well, 2 days after that night I had one and I'm very happy with it. It gives you the transients that you just don't get with the 58. I'm not familiar with the Sennheiser that you'r looking at, but they are a great studio mic as well. We've all upgraded our other equipment over the years, I guess it's time we did the same with our mics. Good luck with your choice. And also, thanks for the info on the Thursday night gig. Joe ------------------ Songman55 www.joeayala.com
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#147765 - 08/23/05 01:24 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 314
Loc: Allen, TX, USA
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Originally posted by Jeffkeo: Hi, guys! I'm a new user on the net. I perform at 747 club in Arlington, Texas (USA). I use Shure 87 beta and EV767. No other MICS can beat the EV767. Thanks to Uncle Dave. Jeff, my name is Tye, I'm in Dallas, I didn't know that 747 is still in operation. I will catch you sometimes, I have many Laotian friends.
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SD9, Audya5, Genos, Roland XP60, 2 Yamaha DSR12, 2 Yamaha Sub, 2 Turbosound 2000
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#147766 - 08/23/05 01:39 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Originally posted by Shade of pale: Originally posted by Jeffkeo: [b]Hi, guys! I'm a new user on the net. I perform at 747 club in Arlington, Texas (USA). I use Shure 87 beta and EV767. No other MICS can beat the EV767. Thanks to Uncle Dave. Jeff, my name is Tye, I'm in Dallas, I didn't know that 747 is still in operation. I will catch you sometimes, I have many Laotian friends. [/B]Tye, the first part of this thread, including that post, is about five years old. The 747 may well be out of business by now! If you get to Shreveport, look me up! DonM www.donmasonmusic.com
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#147767 - 08/24/05 11:51 AM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 314
Loc: Allen, TX, USA
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Originally posted by DonM: Tye, the first part of this thread, including that post, is about five years old. The 747 may well be out of business by now! If you get to Shreveport, look me up! DonM www.donmasonmusic.com Thanks Don for pointing it out, silly me.
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SD9, Audya5, Genos, Roland XP60, 2 Yamaha DSR12, 2 Yamaha Sub, 2 Turbosound 2000
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#147768 - 08/24/05 11:58 AM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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The Samson Q7 is an incredible mic, excellent frequency response, crisp, clear vocals, very high resistance to feedback, and it is very inexpensive. I like it much better than my $299 Sennheiser E-855 and was astonished to find it sold for just $79 on some Internet sites.
Good Luck,
Gary
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K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#147769 - 08/24/05 02:53 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 314
Loc: Allen, TX, USA
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Don, I'm not that far from you, if my weekend schedule clear up, don't be surprise that I drop in, I really want to see other arranger players in action, that would be fun, thanks for the invitation.
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SD9, Audya5, Genos, Roland XP60, 2 Yamaha DSR12, 2 Yamaha Sub, 2 Turbosound 2000
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#147772 - 08/24/05 04:46 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Larry, I'm using the Crown CM-311-A which does a great job. The only time I use my Samson Q7 handheld is when I'm in the studio doing a quick recording and too lazy to unpack the crown. Cheers, Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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#147787 - 11/21/06 02:24 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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I'm always looking for a high-quality, headset mic that is more comfortable and less obvious. The Countryman E6 appears to have both those qualities, however, I noticed it is an omnidirectional mic on the spec sheet. Of those that use this mic, do you have any problems with feedback, or can this be offset by using one of the special caps to make the mic hypercardiod? Cheers, Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!
K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#147791 - 11/21/06 07:16 PM
Re: Question for the pros, What Model Mic are you using for Vocals? and why?
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Actually, there is no health law, state or U.S., that applies to the return of microphones. I challenged this several times and found that it was nothing more than the store policy, which they hoped would make all mic sales final. This just didn't cut it with me, and in one instance when I told the store owner to produce the law, he said well that's our policy. I told him my policy was to call VISA and tell them to cancel the charge. At that point he accepted the mic and credited my VISA account. Cheers, Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!
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