I guess this thread answers my question? Arggggg !
Arranger KB marketing is on a downfall for sure here in the US sad that we always have to go on a treasure hunt to find, search & discover, missions all the time...
Don't get excited, Donny. I just wanted to bump this thread to the top of the board because I also would like to hear some live demos with the Pa800 other than those alredy on YouTube.
I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen for a while my friend....sad whats happening to the marketing of Keyboards.....it seems we have fallen to the morally wrong Buy and Return policy strategy!................
Today Fran & I went to two big music stores and unbelievably they only had low end KB's & old used and 3 year old model arrangers & synths Arggggg how depressing....best part no one cares either....
The Internet is ruining the retail music stores....in years to come you wont even see a store in your area....
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Donny: I am guessing you and Fran went to the GC in Fairless and SA at Franklin Mills (or something similar).
I agree that the internet is changing the dynamics of the industry. If you think about it, advanced keyboards by nature are played by people you are technically adept. Therefore, they are going to shop on-line for price. The item is a commododity and the in-store sales people don't have the product knowledge. And even if they did, must people would still shop on-line for price anyway.
What that leaves the store with is sales for the less-sophisticated keyboards for arrangers and a couple of synths that they feel they can push out the door or at least stock to look legitimate.
Of course there are exceptions, like George Kaye. But I am sure even he depends on on-line sales for his business and when he does, he has to compete on price.
Originally posted by RobertG: Donny: I am guessing you and Fran went to the GC in Fairless and SA at Franklin Mills (or something similar).
Fran.....as requested in the original post above "NON FACTORY"....Demos.... We went to the SA in Valley Forge which was well stocked with gear although no Pa800 or any Roland Arrangers....but surprisingly they had a 3k, 15k, PA50, Oasis, & a nice Hammond portable model........I've given up on getting excited about new KB's, when they come, they come.....
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These demos are excellent. I admit I 've never heard a Hammond organ live, but, of all keyboards I've heard, I like best the Hammond sound in this demo.
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Hi George If you ever do get the chance to hear a Hammond (Particularly the B3) live with a good player, then do so as the sound is quite awesome. The closest emulation of a Hammond organ is by Native Instruments, and is called the B4 (Legal Reasons) VST, http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=b4ii_us&ftu=975ddd233514c4b and can be used by anybody with a computer or Open Keyboard. Enjoy
Bill
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Ian I agree with your assessment.... man this baby is lightweight, great live styles & sounds, plus Helicon Voc Harmony....& its BLUE!!!! But why has Korg held back US distribution so long, I dont get it?
Somebody please find me a NON FACTORY Demo or Video of someone playing & singing american music on a KORG PA800...its amazing that I cant find one as of yet
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I didn't give it much thought but Manuel Dorantes who use to visit the forum has one. Maybe he has some you may want to contact him. He recently recorded a CD on the Tyros 2. I believe he's going to do one using the PA 800.
Originally posted by Dnj: Steve yes I remember him saying he plays both somewhere in Arizona (?).....It just amazes me none can be found ....maybe he'll read this