Scott,

I have never looked into vocal monitoring, but I do not see what going with Carvins is buying you:

- The 5" speakers will NEVER handle bass at any significant volume - this is a major drawback to me (and I think to most arranger players, who have to hear the lows of the accompaniment to keep pace, or at least I do). In fact, the specs don't say if the 86 Hz is a 3 dB, 10 dB, or "Usable" frequency.

- The amplifier puts out only 50 watts per side in stereo. This is not so much.

- You end up having to carry three pieces - the two speakers and an amplifier. I could understand if you wanted to use small powered speakers, e.g. Galaxy Hot Spot (also not much bass but built in amp) not requiring a power amp, but unpowered speakers???

You might as well stay with the Tyros speakers - also three pieces, predictable frequency response, no problem mounting, and you already have them. I have my MS50s, similar to the Tyros speakers, and the only thing I don't like about them is that they are white, not black.

Regards

note: although the description says: 'you get the full audio spectrum from 86 to 19.5 kHz, the official techical spec sheet states: 75 Hz to 19.5 kHz, plus or minus 3db.




50 watts per channel is still more than double the output currently going to my Tyros satellite speakers: 20 watts per channel. Won't the PM5's with 50 watts going into them provide at least TWICE the volume? I was just hoping the PM5's would solve my biggest complaint about the Tyros satellite speakers: insufficeint volume output, and unimpressive mid range sound reproduction.

The BIG problem I find with the Tyros Speakers (and small satellite speakers which rely on a sub woofer in general), is that though high and low frequencies sound impressive, the mid-low frequencies seem to be lacking. I PREFER hearing a SMOOTHER frequency response across the entire spectrum, even if it means sacrificing (a little) the lower bass.

Even though the PM5's have only 5-1/4" woofers, it's woofer size is actually over a 1/2 inch larger than the built in woofers on my Yamaha PSR2000. I think the PSR2000's built in speakers actually sound pretty decent (with adequate bass) for stage monitoring purposes. The Carvin Tech Rep assured me that the PM5's deliver dramatically improved (punchy) bass over the Galazy Hot Spots, but perhaps his enthusiasm may be somewhat colored because he has a vested interested in Carvin.

Alex, you've made some good points, and I appreciate your candid feedback. I still haven't decided whether I'll give the Carvins a free trial test drive yet, afterall, I'll be responsible for paying the shipping either way. Since I've already ordered the Motion Sound KP-100S, I have plenty of auditioning ahead to look forward to. I'll keep you all posted. - Scott

We went over all this before.
Twice the power is equal to 10% more volume only. You need TEN times the power to get twice the volume.

Yep... that's right...

Luis Santos

Excuse me for not having committed every one of your 3,468 posts to memory.- Scott

I din't mean it that way Scott. It was just a few weeks ago that the topic was drawn out in detail ...... I thought you were up on it. I didn't mean it to sound harsh.

Another reason NOT to get a silent slab as UD put it. I find this all amusing going back and forth, ordering this, sending it back, ordering that, sending it back. Scott, wouldn't it be easier to sell that mute board, hang on to your PSR 2000, then wait for the new generation boards to come out that have speakers built-in and all the other features your looking for? Plus if you do, you don't have to worry about lugging extra gear around with you every time you take it on the road. One thing I'll give to your credit: your persistent in your endeavor PS: If your determined to get your speakers I really hope you finally get the ones that make you happy.

Best regards,
Mike

hi Mike: Perhaps I need to clarify things. I really LOVE my Tyros KB (and even the Tyros speaker setup). Ok, ok, I'll admit I don't love the Tyros speakers as much as the Tyros itself, but they're definitely a big improvement over the PSR2000's built in speakers, and not much more of a hassle to setup either. The primary reason I'm searching for something better is just because the Tyros 'affords' that option, whereas the 2000 doesn't. I'm the type of guy always looking for a 'better mousetrap'. Aren't we all?! - Scott