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#152370 - 05/16/06 03:40 PM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
Chas, a big tip will impress a cute waitress, much more!!!


Fran, with the (mostly) ol' farts that frequent this board, it's going to have to be a REALLY BIG tip .

chas

.....and the waitress will have to be named Anna Nicole ....
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#152371 - 05/17/06 02:03 AM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
Booby Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 107
Hi,

Quote:
Originally posted by o3bor:

Wrong! G-70 chord recognition is better then the others: it has several types of chord recognition that can fit different needings and keyboard settings.
It is able to recognize a lot of different types of chords and adapt the played styles accordingly.



I was talking about rootless positions as said by Scott. But anyway I'm still curios to understand what you mean: can you show few examples of these chord recognition modes available in G-70 you are talking about ?

Regards.

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#152372 - 05/17/06 02:46 AM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
o3bor Offline
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Registered: 12/13/04
Posts: 190
Quote:
Originally posted by Booby:
Hi,

I was talking about rootless positions as said by Scott. But anyway I'm still curios to understand what you mean: can you show few examples of these chord recognition modes available in G-70 you are talking about ?

Regards.

There are 3 types of chord recognition (Standard, Piano Mode, Intelligent) and a Bass Inversion switch; the chord recognition can be assigned to left or right side of the keyboard or to the whole keyboard.
For further details I suggest you to download the User's Manual since writing them here would be too long.

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#152373 - 06/19/06 01:03 PM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
Anonymous
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The only problem I have with these types of "Band in a Box" keyboards is that they take away the originality of the artist.

I mean.. you press a button and here's a standard fill that everyone else is using as well.

To me, if you program stuff yourself, even tweak the sounds, resample your own stuff.. then you have YOUR sound

Anyway.. my 2 cents I guess

SEA

[This message has been edited by jamiesea (edited 06-19-2006).]

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#152374 - 06/19/06 02:40 PM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by Booby:
Hi,

I own a Pa1X and played several time a Tyros 1 (not 2): I don't feel all the differences you mention, there are a lot of similar positions they share. That in any case seems more than what Roland offer in G-70, right ?

Just a question: but are you complaining how the chord is recognized (the chord position) or just what it is played back by the arranger once the chord has been recognized ?

Regards


Hello Booby, I own a Pa1Xpro and i am having some problems, when i switch to different voices the page does'nt load properly and when i switch to a different voice the sound is distorted and sounds terrible, should i trade it in? have you had any problems.

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#152375 - 06/20/06 12:15 AM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
Scott Langholff Online   content
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi chas

I wonder if you would mind emailing those tweaked styles to me?

Actually, what I have been thinking about is, it seems like it would be a great idea if all birds of a feather flock together. In this case, I think if Tyros 2 owners would share their tweakings with others, perhaps on some good site, maybe psrtutorial, then everyone would come out way ahead, don't you agree?

scott_langholff@yahoo.com

Best
Scott
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#152376 - 06/20/06 04:31 AM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2866
Loc: Tampa, FL
Quote:
Originally posted by jamiesea:
The only problem I have with these types of "Band in a Box" keyboards is that they take away the originality of the artist.

I mean.. you press a button and here's a standard fill that everyone else is using as well.

To me, if you program stuff yourself, even tweak the sounds, resample your own stuff.. then you have YOUR sound

Anyway.. my 2 cents I guess

SEA

[This message has been edited by jamiesea (edited 06-19-2006).]


There is nothing preventing you from re-programming your own riffs or sounds on an arranger keyboard. I always get amazed when I hear this from so called, "artists" that refuse to use a so called band in a box keyboard. This is in part to the fact they are supposed to be so creative with original thoughts of sounds, lyrics, etc. yet they BLINDLY refuse to entertain the thought of even using an arranger for song construction. Some of the top artists use arrangers for that very purpose; putting song frameworks, composition, rehearsal, orchestration together.

Come to think of it, you can complain about the same thing about a Yamaha Motif or a Korg Triton with thier built in patterns, samples, and sequencers.


[This message has been edited by kbrkr (edited 06-20-2006).]
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#152377 - 06/20/06 07:03 AM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
RobertG Offline
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Registered: 05/08/06
Posts: 464
Loc: Southeastern PA, USA
Cute waitresses aside (see above). As I have experimented with rootless jazz voicings on the T2 I have discoved that it does recognize some; however, it doesn't play them correctly. It plays all the notes of the chord in the inversion that it chooses. With some careful planning and some unnatural inversions I have gotten some good results.

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#152378 - 06/20/06 08:30 AM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Quote:
Originally posted by cgiles:
[B] Fran, with the (mostly) ol' farts that frequent this board, it's going to have to be a REALLY BIG tip .

chas

B]


... HEY... I RESEMBLE that remark !!!
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#152379 - 06/20/06 08:40 AM Re: PA1x vs Tyros - chord recognition
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by RobertG:
I have discoved that it does recognize some; however, it doesn't play them correctly. It plays all the notes of the chord in the inversion that it chooses.


It's up to us the keyboard player, to play (and sound) the desired LH rootless chord voicing + inversion, not the keyboard's piano arranger auto accomp part. What chord recognition mode are you using? The which recognizes rootless chords is "FINGERED MODE". In this mode, the keyboard (with LEFT voice turned ON)faithly reproduces the actual LH chords + inversion, we're playing.It's (of course) important to remember to TURN OFF "auto accomp" piano compng parts, if this is what you were refering to.

RobertG: btw: Never heard from you on Skype. Did you ever download & install Skype? If so, email me privately to let me know your Skype ID, and I can fill you in with more info there.

Scott
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