![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#15346 - 04/10/06 06:00 PM
Re: MY GENESYS DIES
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Originally posted by DAN.2000: I hope this is just this !
Did you have any consil how to open the genesys?
I work with computers... and some electronics. I think it's easy. But there is something particular to know? (the screws to open) The screws seems special. Hi, First the end-caps must be removed from each side of the case. The screws holding the end-caps in place require an allen wrench (I'm sorry I don't remember the size but it is a standard size). Once the end-caps are removed, you will see normal phillips head screws that must be removed. Then remove the small phillips head screws from the back side of the top panel right above the back panel. Now the top panel will lift off. BE CAREFUL of the wiring harnesses that run between the front panel and mainboard when lifting the top. It helps to have something 2 or 3 inches high and the length of the keyboard sitting behind the instrument when you lift the top so you have something to sit it on while keeping the cables from getting strained. I hope this helps. If any of this is not clear please contact the GEM distributor in your country to locate a service center in your area. Best Regards, Dave ------------------ Wm. David McMahan Nat'l Product and Support Manager Generalmusic USA GEM Community Forums
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#15347 - 04/12/06 08:48 AM
Re: MY GENESYS DIES
|
Senior Member
Registered: 08/09/01
Posts: 1134
Loc: FRANCE
|
Many thanks for your so fast support ! I know that you are the only one who really helps just when we need help ! 1)I opened the genesys with your informations. It's easy to open ! 19 screws only ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif) without to have to put the front face of the keyb downside. I like it ! and this front panel pivot ! Gem are genius Inside the Keyb, all seems very good construct and mounted! All cables are maintened with some glue, so It's very difficult to detach one. The cables seems to be pluged correctely, so I replug them, and tested again. The hard drive can'ot be acceced, but I can start the Synth drectely from CD-ROM. After many trys, I finaly want to test the Hard drive, because it's a simple mobile PC Hard drive. I opened the 4 screws of the hard drive (very well attached with rubber on the screws, to avoid choks and noise !) But I heard a noise inside the 9 Gb HD, as if something inside the hard drive is detached. To be sure, I pluged the hard drive instead of my secondary HD in my notebook, and the HD is not recongnized too. I m computer engeener, and the diagnostic is that the IBM HD is dead !! But I can swear that It's not my fault ! I turn on the gem only 20 times in its life. I use Ketron SD1 for 5 years, and take it for gig 500 times, and the HD is always good. I think it's an bad serial HD from IBM. So what I can do? 2) From the first day, My genesys says : "battery completely discharged" when I power it up. Someone says to me that the battery is soldered on the mainboard, so I must send my genesys to a reparator. But When I open it , I saw an 3 battery ensemble, put inside a red thing, with just a screw and a connector. Is it this battery to replace? It seem easy! Best Regards, Dan Z from France
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#15348 - 04/12/06 09:13 AM
Re: MY GENESYS DIES
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Originally posted by DAN.2000: Many thanks for your so fast support ! I know that you are the only one who really helps just when we need help ! ¡K.. 1)I opened the genesys with your informations. It's easy to open ! 19 screws only without to have to put the front face of the keyb downside. I like it ! and this front panel pivot ! Gem are genius
Inside the Keyb, all seems very good construct and mounted! All cables are maintened with some glue, so It's very difficult to detach one. ¡K.. I m computer engeener, and the diagnostic is that the IBM HD is dead !! ¡K.. 2) From the first day, My genesys says : "battery completely discharged" when I power it up. Someone says to me that the battery is soldered on the mainboard, so I must send my genesys to a reparator. But When I open it , I saw an 3 battery ensemble, put inside a red thing, with just a screw and a connector. Is it this battery to replace? It seem easy! Best Regards, Dan Z from FranceHello Dan, Thank you. I am not the only one, but I think I am at the top of the list. ƒº I am glad you find the construction of the Genesys to be of a quality design. It is a very roadworthy instrument. I agree that it sounds like the hard drive is dead. Please contact the distributor in your country to determine the proper route to take in getting this resolved. Or you could just buy a new hard drive since they are fairly inexpensive these days and install the O/S and then you should be ready to go. Speaking of the operating system, there was a time when the battery voltage was not being read properly which led the user to think that the battery was defective. This has been rectified in a past O/S release. I suggest you install the latest O/S version for your model and see if that solves this issue. Again the GEM distributor in your country should be able to get you the latest O/S CD. Best Regards, Dave ------------------ Wm. David McMahan Nat'l Product and Support Manager Generalmusic USA GEM Community Forums
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/top_right_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/left_span.gif) |
#15350 - 04/12/06 02:32 PM
Re: MY GENESYS DIES
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Originally posted by DAN.2000: When I have a question, it's more easy to have the answer from You in USA (9 hours with airplane), than from my dealer many thanks
Regarding the HD, 9 Gb hard drive is difficult to find... you have any suggestion?
Regarding the battery See my previous post http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum10/HTML/000314.html so it's probably battery problem... is it soldered or just pluged?Hello Dan, Thank you for saying that. It makes me feel good that so many other people from around the world have similar feelings. I am very proud to work for Generalmusic and even though I am only employed by the US distributor, I have great concern for all GEM owners. Regarding the hard drive; just find the smallest capacity you can find, i.e. 20, 40, 100, etc. The Genesys will only format to the original capacity that the particular model was designed for. Original Genesys (with speakers), 2GB Original Genesys Pro, 4GB Genesys S, Pro S, XP and Ensemble, 20GB Hard drive capacities are continually being increased, so during the manufacturing of the Genesys (and any hard drive enable product) it is very likely that the true hard drive capacity is larger that the design of the instrument can acknowledge. NOTE: If you have the original Genesys or Genesys Pro, there is a hard drive kit available consisting of additional circuitry, O/S patch and 20GB hard drive. To my knowledge this is only available in Europe so unfortunately this is all I can tell about this kit. For the battery issue, I would download and install the latest software patch Genesys Pro software patch version 1.06 and then leave the instrument plugged in and turned on for 24 hours and then check the battery voltage. After you have installed this most recent software, and have attempted to fully charge the battery and the Genesys still has to do a hard boot from hard drive then yes it is probably the battery. And yes it is soldered into place. But if you are handy with a soldering gun and realize what precautions to take when working with a soldering gun around rechargeable batteries, then you shouldn't have any problem replacing them. Just something to consider, in the thread you linked me to about the battery, you said " at startup, the genesys says to me : battery completely discharged and must reload all the sounds into flash." This message does indicate that the battery is at fault. However, the fact that the hard drive may have been in the process of dying and was not able to boot the instrument up properly may have something to do with this message. So again I suggest installing a new hard drive and the software patch 1.06 and then allow the battery to gain a full charge. Then again, if you already have the case open, you might just want to replace the battery anyway. ![](http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif) Best Regards, Dave ------------------ Wm. David McMahan Nat'l Product and Support Manager Generalmusic USA GEM Community Forums [This message has been edited by WDMcM (edited 04-12-2006).]
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/right_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_left_2.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_span.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_1.gif) |
![](http://www.synthzone.com/forum/styles/images/black_and_gold/bottom_right_2.gif) |
|
|