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#156258 - 09/05/02 05:59 PM Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Mario Offline
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Registered: 07/07/99
Posts: 380
Loc: Wayside, New jersey, USA
One of the lower keys on my 2000 has broken.
The key has some "spring back" but is "mushy"
and does not respond to the touch sensitivity.
Donny and I had a session las Tuesday and it looks like it got a "work out" (Donny, you broke my KB!)
Anyway, Uncle Dave is right, this machine was built as a "toy", not a professional kB.
I am in deep trouble, since I got a gig on Saturday and I have no replacement for it.
God knows how long it'll be laid up for repair.
Does anyone know what might have happened?
and what to do about it?
heeeelp!
Mario

[This message has been edited by Mario (edited 09-05-2002).]
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#156259 - 09/05/02 06:13 PM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Many times, the spring at the top of the key falls out of place and just needs to be repositioned. I hope that's all that happened. Good luck!
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#156260 - 09/05/02 06:21 PM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Mario Offline
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Registered: 07/07/99
Posts: 380
Loc: Wayside, New jersey, USA
Thanks George. I have the cover off the keyboard but it seems like the whole keyboard system is enclosed and it's hard to see behind the keys. Do you know how to get inside this structure to examine it and see if the spring is out of place?
Have you ever seen this contraption appart?
thanks,
Mario
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#156261 - 09/05/02 09:11 PM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Mario,
sorry, I've never opened a PSR2000. It seems the PSR keyboards are harder to get into than the pro keyboards. there is more room and heavier parts inside the more expensive models and to keep things light, it's harder to work on.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#156262 - 09/05/02 10:27 PM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Mario Offline
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Registered: 07/07/99
Posts: 380
Loc: Wayside, New jersey, USA
Well folks, I found the problem. I finally figured out how to take the rubber key pads off for examination; and sure enough, one of them was ripped as if had been cut by a knife. Don't understand how something like this could happen, unless something fell on top of the key and hit it quite hard; it's something I consider almost impossible to do by just "playing" normally. (Donny, I know you are a “hard hitter” but even you couldn’t have done it on our last session)
Any way, the KB has a total of 4 sections of rubber pads plus one single pad for the top key. The repair is a rather simple one, since all I need is to replace the damaged pad section. Which I'll be ordering from yamaha in the morning.
Taking the structure around the pads to get access to them is a little tricky, unless you know how the whole thing is put together, which took me a while to figure out. Essentially, the pads are "sandwiched" in place by two solid-state circuit boards, which simply snap in place held by plastic push lock tabs, not screws.
I switched the rubber pads in the keyboard by placing the bad one (which was in the lower section) at the high end of the KB or the highest octave, which I can do without until I get the replacement pad section.
I am excited that I won't have to send the keyboard out for repair and get laid up for a month by fixing it myself and, that I will be able to perform on Saturday night.
I hope this can help someone who might run into the same predicament in the future.
Are you listening Scott? It’s just a matter of time buddy!
Yes, this keyboard was built as if Yamaha was already losing money on it. Lets hope the Tyros isn't built with the same philosophy of the psr2000, you know folks, catering to the "home players market"
Mario


[This message has been edited by Mario (edited 09-05-2002).]
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#156263 - 09/05/02 10:37 PM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
mario,

I know the feeling very well. I am so glad you figured out the problem.get the part OVERNIGHT SHIPPED! Your KB would have been laid up for a while. I would get a few of those rubber things just in case of an emergency. This is why all pros need a backup KB identicle to each other. I have two 9k's, plus I have extra sets of keys and rubber key strips, plus I also ordered the 9k Yamaha tech manual/schematic booklet. Next time we meet I'll give you the service shop in PT Pleasant info for Yamaha in our area. Have a good gig!



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#156264 - 09/05/02 10:46 PM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Mario Offline
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Registered: 07/07/99
Posts: 380
Loc: Wayside, New jersey, USA
Donny:
How was your gig tonight budd? I would have come over, but you know my predicament.
I am glad we have a Yamaha service shop in Point Pleasant, I will call them tomorrow, maybe they'll have the part I need.
I see you are getting Sonar down "pretty good", it's a great program.
I'll give you a call tomorrow.
Mario
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#156265 - 09/05/02 11:16 PM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by Mario:
I hope this can help someone who might run into the same predicament in the future. Are you listening Scott? It’s just a matter of time buddy!


Mario, GREAT to hear that you were able to figure out the problem and avoid having to send the kb in for repair for 'who knows' how long. Donny's suggestion of purchasing the Technical/Schematic Manual as well as keeping spare parts on hand is very WISE!

I definitely hear you loud and clear, and realize just how lucky I've been not experiencing problems with my 2000 (yet). I'll just have to keep Donny Pesce a safe distance away from 'MY' board . . .just kidding of course . Luckily I've got a buddy who also owns a 2000 and has agreed to lend me his if ever mine develops trouble, but so far, mine's holding up fine, especially considering how much gig transporting & playing I do. I never bang on the keys, but I definitely play with intensity so would think something would have gone wrong by now, if it was going to happen. I'm just keepin my fingers crossed until I purchase my 'next' model arranger board: Tyros, XD9,KN7000, or possibly even another PSR2000 Mario, please keep us posted on your kb repair progress. We're all pulling for you. - Scott
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#156266 - 09/06/02 12:12 AM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Jerryghr Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1497
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Mario,

Glad you were able to figure out the mechanics of the keyboard. Let us know what the strip cost. It may be worthwhile to keep several on hand, if not to costly.

Can you take some digital pictures of the disassemled keyboard, and show us the proper way to get at the keys. How many times have we heard "A picture is worth a thousand words."

Thanks for helping the members benefit from your unfortunate predicament. I have been wondering about the Tyros construction , myself. I have not heard any comment about the feel or durability of the 'Tyros' keys.

Regards,

Jerry

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#156267 - 09/06/02 12:16 AM Re: Help! I've got a broken PsR2000!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
mario,

check your mail ASAP

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