How about the Mackie SRM450's??? And while you're at it save around $900 (on 2) in the process. PS: Even if you've got money to burn you still couldn't do better than the Mackie SRM450's for 12" Monitors vs. the SxA360's or any other Make or Model (comparatively speaking - similar price range, etc.) IMO.

My 2 cents

Best regards,
Mike

PS: You asked for opinions so I'm giving you mine.

Mike,
I looked for your email address to do this in private but you haven't shared that with us so here goes:

You give a lot of advice on stuff that you never owned or tested, and while I DO respect your opinion to chime in .... you're not helping anyone by spewing out info that anyone can gather right here on the net or in a manual.
You're a nice guy with a polite, concerned attitude and always uses proper decorum, but in this place ....... I doubt your qualifications to be throwing statements around, like the one I quoted in this post.
Have you ever owned or performed with the new EVs to make that statement? Have you had the Mackies either? I have, and to tell the truth .... I loved 'em, but they had severe shortcomings in certain situations.

I think this BBS is a wonderful haven for advice, companionship and venting, but I strongly advise against quoting books or specs when giving advice on products or techniques that you do not have FIRST HAND experience with. Many folks, with extra time on their hands seem to have lots to add in these discussions, but from where I stand ( and read ), few have the real world "know how" to acurately advise on the subjects.


(this is for ALL OF US, myself included)

Please - refrian from RE quoting others advice or making judgements by specs alone when someone is looking for help. I have very little free time, and I choose to spend as much of it as I can right here with you people, trying to increase the database of knowledge and expertise of the musicians represented. I love to share info that can make the lives of musicians easier and our audiences happier! We all learn from each other, and unless I'm mistaken ... we can ALL read(or listen) and do google searches. Let's leave the tough comparisons and questions about specifics to those who can share experience from the trenchs, ok?

I'm not attacking YOU Mike, just making a point about how often you quote advice with nothing to back it up. Your intentions are good, but you're not helping the education process unless you quote from actual experience.

Like I said ..... I would have done this direct if you posted an email address.
Annonimity is your right, but in this business ..... we should all be approachable. Heck - it could lead to work!

Peace.( and I mean that )


[This message has been edited by Uncle Dave (edited 10-10-2004).]

Uncle Dave,

Of course mike is only giving his opinion, so he's not the master of the thruth, as it happens with any other person. I even don't agree with his opinion about the Mackie SRM450. SRM450 are heavier, less powerful and bigger than the SXA360...

But I do agree with you, UD, when you say we shouldn't talk about any equipment as we owned it, without ever testing it in first hand.

Speaking for mysfelf, I already tested (only for a small time) the SRM450 and liked it. Here I live I'm unable to test the SXA360 and that's why I'm asking for help from anyone who owns it.
I've also read about the overheating problem of the SRM450, and I can't take that risk because what we do (at least in my case) isn't a game, but a real professional "job".

Luis Santos

Gary,

I also like to test the equipment, specially speakers, before buying it. What I think is when you hear a speaker on a musicstore, it's a completely different room than the rooms we are used to play in!... That's why I'm never 100% sure of that test, but as you say, when A/B comparisions, it sure helps on the decision. The "perfect" speakers also should sound good without any EQ or effects, you're right, but I prefer taking a very knonw CD and compare the sound of the speakers to the sound of my studio professional speakers, trying to achieve the minimal difference (of course our "sound memory" has to work here!).

Doesn't a good pair of speakers have to sound good with any keyboard, even if with a little EQ? So why take the keyboard to the store when probably within the next 6 months I could trade my keyboard? Same with microphones...
That's why I insist and prefer the CD test.

My concern is, here in Portugal, I don't live near any musicstore where I could try those SXA360. They're also too expensive here, and that's why probably I'll order them from another country.

Thanks for the help

Luis Santos

[This message has been edited by Luis.Santos (edited 10-10-2004).]

Uncle Dave,

Did you ever think of quitting your day job and take up writing?

What you ask of everyone is reasonable and sensible. When I first found the BBS, a long time before I wanted to be officially a part of it, the first thing that became obvious was the amount of people with information from first hand experience or having information from a reliable friend's experience. I do get mail from manufacturers of music products and nobody shows bad specifications or the downside of a product. So, keep the facts of experience coming. I, personally, need that.

Here's another option of speakers. How about the FBT Maxx 4A. They weigh about 35 lbs and have 400 watts and are pretty clear. I also have the Mackies SRM-450 (a little heavy) and the BOSE PAS, like Uncle Dave, which is light and has a crystal clear sound. Remember one thing - after you walk away about 3-5 feet, the stereo effect becomes obsolete and your audience hears it in mono anyway so why not lighten you load.

Good advice Firehead, expect that there is a problem with the Yamaha arrangers in particular in that they just don't sound nearly as good in mono as stereo. I suppose, as many have said, that the problems is in the panning of effects or layers, but it does exist. If it weren't for that, mono for live performance would most likely be the best option, since it would be easier to cover the room with the full sound.
DonM

No need to guess, Luis... it will be a good choice. I also auditioned the SxA360 and found it to be an excellent sounding speaker, with plenty of volume and light weight (37 lbs). Yes, expensive, but IMO, worth the price.

Originally posted by keybplayer:
Even if you've got money to burn you still couldn't do better than the Mackie SRM450's for 12" Monitors vs. the SxA360's or any other Make or Model

Dave, you forgot my notorious "IMO" in your quote of my quote.



The reason I removed my email address from my SZ Profile was I was getting annoying SPAM from troll's who have nothing better to do than to deviously fill my Inbox with muck and mire. Not that I regard your flame as such UD. PS: You can find my email address if you look for it btw. Home is where the heart is I always say. Hint hint...

Although I have not heard the EV SxA360's I have read about them from people who do own them. They don't get the rave reviews I expected from such an expensive speaker[s]. They do weigh less than the Mackies which is a big bonus but for the $$$ savings alone I (as in Me) would go for the Mackies. Everywhere I (as in Me) look, it seems the Mackie SRM450's are the big ticket item. Bands love them for their great sound and 'affordability'.

I have honestly never seen a Band using the ElectroVoice SxA360's btw. One reason being it would seem is they are overly priced and hard to find and another reason may be (possibly the biggest reason of all) is that they don't offer any advantage sonically over the very popular SRM450's??

GC used to carry EV. They no longer do. GC also used to carry Kurzweil. They no longer do. >> Do I see a trend here? Btw, if you didn't know, Kurzweil was bought out by Young Chang, makers of less than stellar (cheap lower end) Pianos. Young Chang recently filed for bankruptcy protection. Both may be goners.

Best regards,
Mike