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#159616 - 06/03/03 09:36 AM
Re: Maybe Uncle Dave is right! (for once)
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Though I agree with Travelin'Easy that it's the performance that should count most, I have to admit that most of my private affair hi society type clients, image is probably just as important as the performance, so taking the PSR2000 is a definite NO NO. These people often have an expensive grand piano typically for looks as they usually can't play it themselves) so in these instances, I'll utilize the grand piano during the dinner hour, reserving the arranger keyboard for cocktails & after dinner entertainment.
As far as sound quality goes, even at very low background volume levels, 4.72" built into keyboard type speakers alone DO NOT cut it in my book. An even slightly larger dedicated PA speaker (or augmenting the built in speaker kb with a sub woofer) produces a 'smoother' more realistic (natural) sound with far greater accuracy & detail. Interestingly, it's these small venues playing exposed (bass/drums/piano) style music where I find augmenting with a dedicated PA speaker or sub woofer essential.
btw: I always stipulate in my contract that the acoustic piano must be in tune & regulated, and with (no broken or missing keys/strings). I'm always amazed how so many pianos that look beautiful, actually sound awful as a lot of rich people primarily purchase pianos as 'status image' display furniture only and don't (can't) play themselves.
Scott
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#159617 - 06/03/03 10:20 AM
Re: Maybe Uncle Dave is right! (for once)
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Anyone who thinks that the actual measurment of a speaker counts for anything is really missing the larger picture here. The best compliment I can give the manufacturers of today's gear is that they really make them sound GREAT in their own, internal world.
Sure, we can make their sound even better with the advanced technology of a higher end system, but the simple fact is ..... most arranger kb's in the $1000+ range really do have a nice balanced sound. Now, to be fair, it doesn't carry very far ... but it was never intended to. In many instances, the sound of an even, pleasing background song is absolutely perfect when accompanying a strong, well trained voice in the hands of a seasoned performer.
Whenever I am in a situation where the volume is a minimal requiriemnt, I try to put all the puzzle pieces together for a great fit. This included my voice. Sometimes, I don't even need to amplify that. My acoustic sound is pretty strong, and many times at wedding services, I use the kb speakers and my acoustic voice ... and that's it.
Churches (and some tents) have terrific natural reverb, and my voice carries to the last seat without a strain.
It's all a case of perspective. Sometimes, little, tiny, plastic speakers really DO cut it. If you haven't experienced a situation like this yet .... you're missing a great time. It's nice to hear the acoustic nature of ANY instrument to remind you of the purity and soul that it can convey, and vocals are no exception.
Before you all start singing the "larger PA is best" saga ........ set up in a small room, and quietly, intimatly communicate with a relaxed nature. See if you like it. I personally, enjoy the heck out of it.
I'm 48 and have been singing since 1969. The only reason I still have perfect hearing is because I never embraced the volume.
Gear will never "make" a peformance. Please forget everything you ever heard that might suggest that you are a better musician if you use better gear. A master carpenter with a cheap hammer can build a fine house, but a weak voiced singer with no sense of swing can never make a millon dollar keyboard entertain a crowd. You gotta have heart, before you can sell your soul!
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#159623 - 06/03/03 08:45 PM
Re: Maybe Uncle Dave is right! (for once)
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 698
Loc: MN. U.S.A.
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WooooooooW Looks like I must have mist out on some body's post, between UD's 2 post's. Seam's like things were getting warmed up. What the heck, just because some of us don't like the sound of onboard speakers,( maybe never will ) & others do like the sound, don't make any of us right or wrong, it's just or own preference. If we all liked the same things then the only KB that would have to be made would be the 9000 Pro. ( Hee Hee Hee ) Did I say that ???? Denny
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#159624 - 06/03/03 08:53 PM
Re: Maybe Uncle Dave is right! (for once)
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
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Damn, would have loved to to see that post between both of UD's... Can anyone fill us in (those of us who didn't get the chance to see the post) Who was it from? By what UD said in his second post something heavy must have been said...
Squeak
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